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Election Results & Cannabis Legalization: Analyzing the Impact | Cannabis Legalization News

In this episode of the Cannabis Legalization News podcast, host Tom dives deep into the latest election results and their implications for cannabis legalization. Tom discusses the perceived overconfidence in the political landscape, the impact of election fraud claims, and the role of different states regarding cannabis policies. The conversation also touches on issues like lab testing standards, hemp-based products, and rescheduling cannabis. Tune in to explore the fascinating world of cannabis legislation, the potential changes in the industry, and what the future holds for cannabis enthusiasts and businesses.

00:00 Introduction and Election Results
00:26 Cannabis Legalization and Viewer Engagement
01:52 Shoutouts and Viewer Analytics
02:21 Election Fraud and Political Analysis
04:53 Trump's Influence and Legalization Speculations
06:56 Hemp Industry Challenges and Legal Issues
10:14 Florida's Cannabis Legislation
13:26 Regulatory Oversight and Market Dynamics
20:03 Hemp vs. Cannabis Debate
24:29 Conservative States and Legalization Efforts
31:05 Nebraska's Medical Cannabis Initiative
31:40 Kentucky's Hemp Regulation Challenges
33:54 Texas Decriminalization Efforts
35:02 Hemp vs. Cannabis: Understanding the Differences
39:47 Trump's Potential Attorney General Picks
46:24 The Future of Hemp and Cannabis Regulation
54:12 The Role of Standardization in Cannabis Testing
57:05 Stock Market Insights: Cannabis Companies
01:03:00 Upcoming Events and Conferences
01:04:38 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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Thomas:

Hey, what's up everybody? It is me, Tom. You can find me over at CannabisIndustryLawyer. com. You're tuned into the number one cannabis legalization news podcast on YouTube. We have our election results. Video today. You're not going to believe who won the election. No, if you're tuning in, you probably believe who won the election. most of our viewers actually voted for this guy and we're going to go over the election results. What does this mean for cannabis legalization? I think they're a little bit Overconfident, but that's like par for the course. if this is your first time joining, thank you so much for tuning in. Don't forget to hit that and then leave us a comment either in the live chat or just below, and then consider subscribing if this is your Ballywick. Now let's get into our trending news. There's some very interesting. Data that we're going to go over from the presidential election from last week

Miggy:

Boom. There we go.

Thomas:

You know shout out to will unfortunately, he has to take care of some stuff and so he's not here to do our backgrounds and That's one of the reasons why We're live now we may edit this and then put it back up for the people that didn't catch it live later

Miggy:

What again? We're just trying to expand the channel expand the knowledge. And so

Thomas:

will trump will allow us to spend expand the channel willy

Miggy:

That's semantical, right? like the kids, there's kids with like a hundred K subscribers, right? so I don't think the cannabis conversation is

Thomas:

going to be, you can watch those channels that have a hundred K subscribers and then look at their view count. And they ain't got views.

Miggy:

There's also the ones like, T with P right. He's a Canadian that when I watch his live streams, cause that's the, what these kids do, streaming. So like they're streaming for an hour, two hours, even Luke, who we had on the show several times, right?

Thomas:

Watch Luke's videos. a lot of them don't get views.

Miggy:

No, I know, but I don't think it's a, he's buying stuff. Matter of fact I look at our, and I look at our analytics, dude, and I want to first shout out Texas, Florida, and Georgia. Those are our top three states of viewers that's real time analytics. if you're LGB, you're appreciated, you're loved, you're part of the community that's what we're trying to build.

Thomas:

we want to

Speaker 3:

hear

Thomas:

from you. And so get in touch with us over at, the comments. That'll be the easiest way after that. what did you think about this week election? I tell you, it was, fascinating. I

Miggy:

I saw in Trump's tweets where there might be some election fraud. So I don't know if the results are yet to be accepted, right? There's some shenanigans.

Thomas:

If you win, there wasn't fraud. if you don't win and maybe some fraud, there was some fascinating stuff that came out. that was the last thing, five 38 projection model. And you can see this is the tallest one for ours. The most likely out of all the possible, this is probably like a Monte Carlo statistical analysis. And if you guys have a political science degree do leave that in the comments because we want to hear from people that have political science degrees, it was the most likely one and said three 12 to Harris's two 26. And it was 312 to 226. So they just called it today, but the model was Correct. they had a 50, basically a 50, 50, and so it just seemed like C had more ability, but like by it's if you flip a coin a hundred times and it comes up and it just magically lands on the edge once, but then the most likely.

Miggy:

You gotta give it to the Republicans as far as like the fear mongering goes. Like they nailed it when it came to like just scaring the shit out of people and saying Oh, Hey, all those trans immigrants are coming for your jobs. Like whatever, it's another fucking, America did America, like Florida does Florida, right?

Thomas:

Americans quickly becoming LA where there's just no middle class. And so that's really what I think a lot of it is. A lot of people are just, and then men have been made to be the bully for, since Donald Trump won the first time. So he was able to really reach out to a lot of men and get them to vote for him. If you think

Miggy:

about it, dude, the, within the analytics, like you're saying about the numbers coming up, a lot of people who were the young voters when his first term was out, we're like 14. he's appealed to the YouTuber, Aiden Ross, Logan Paul crowd, right? These kids were raised by a chair sniffer who, does dumb shit for tricks and Mr. Beaks and stuff, right?

Thomas:

he also appeared on Joe Rogan that I was seen by bazillions, millions of people. Yeah. I'm not that worried. I am a white male who owns a business. Me too. Cause I'm your partner in one of those things. So I'll be fine. Meggie, we're gonna change, actually you have a pretty white last name. So we don't have to change yours.

Miggy:

And then when people hear me talk, it's oh shit, we didn't know. But, you know who doesn't have a chance? Florida.

Thomas:

No chance. That is our next story. And so now that we've talked to, maybe we should dive in a little bit as to what is this do you really think, cause I see all these people oh, he's going to legalize it and all this other stuff. I'm just getting stolen from which God, yes. And then and then it's, so it's copyright violations on both, parts, but then he still has a cookies please do accept the cookies. Here, let me share. I got it. I got it. Yeah. And so it's, called. Trump weed, donaldtrumpweed. com. Don't forget to get your free gift. You get a free gram of THCA flour. and so how Trump legalized weed, and then it's like Trump made weed legal explained by me, which I've never spoken to this guy and, he's using the video that I did mostly satirically, about it. And then again, it's total THC of 22%. That is not hemp. That's not. And so a lot of the federal government says it's not supposed to be that, but then not only is he using that, he's just straight up using Donald Trump and Donald wants to wet his beak on this. He's not just going to be able to get away with It.

Miggy:

it's only a matter of time before he tries to copyright the president's seal, the funny thing is too generic and it's not his property either. I told my wife, as long as we've been doing this, you did this during, we started this podcast, during the trauma era, right? like the beginning of his first term. I said, my wife was like, Tom, I think, you were one of the first, cause there's plenty of, cannabis lawyers out there and everybody has a perspective, but when this farm bill came about, that was one of the first things you were preaching about. And me as a consumer who lives in a state that. Pretty much has done good legalization for at least when it comes to options for the consumer, because, I just go to store by an ounce. So they'll ask me for whatever long. And then I go buy another one without like, a gun registry

Thomas:

selection.

Miggy:

So your champion of the logistics of the law has enabled a bunch of these hemp people to be in business, which we call gas station zero

Thomas:

dollars.

Miggy:

Well,

Thomas:

zero dollars. It may have paid me a couple hundred bucks. And then I would explain to him that I don't think it's really legal, and then they would go hire Rod Kite, who hopefully charged him more than zero dollars, I just hated the phone calls with the hamsters, because every you have a client and everything he wants to do is to try to avoid the law. Or try to skirt the law or not comply with it or say that, can I do this? Is there a way that I can lawyer that? And I'm like, look, there are limits. I think lawyers are not supposed to help you break the fucking law and they don't care. They don't care. And that's one of those things though, where I watched the apprentice movie this weekend about, it's mostly about Roy Cohn and, Donald's, intro into, what he became. There's a line you're not supposed to cross and most Americans don't have it. And there's an old, story from Sam Zell. He's a mensch, he's dead, but he's a mensch. He's a good guy. I can't, I'm not Jewish. And so I can't remember the particular Yiddish word that he used for describing it, but he was a young real estate developer. And he was buying buildings for plottage and plottage is basically like where you are able to put, properties together and then it's worth more than what it was for you paid for it. And so he is talking to somebody who wants to buy their property and they say you got to pay us more than what you paid our neighbor. And he's I can't pay you more than what you paid a neighbor. I'm going to pay you the same thing. I'm going to pay your neighbor because otherwise you're going to talk to somebody and they're going to want more. And then they're going to want more. And then suddenly my financial model is just completely for cocked. And then this thing's underwater and I can't do anything. Everybody's screwed. And he goes, and then the neighbors say, pay us more. And we won't tell anybody. And that's 50 percent of America, at least 50 percent of America is out there for them. Fuck everybody else. And it's just that, that, that hamster right there Miggie and I got to get a shop open. They aren't going to come to our shop. They want you to go buy their weed online called THCA flower.

Speaker 3:

You

Miggy:

know, yeah. Inter Slack I shared with you, an article I wrote 10 years ago. On rescheduling Right? here, I'll put it in the chat, but like the fact that I've been trying to advocate for just some change that will give a citizen's, empowerment, but not just empowerment for the end user, but, empowerment for the business. Like fair business, a good business, is like a traceability, as someone who works in the test and measurement industry for the past 17 years, I've done some of the most fucked up shit. Like I've worked for fucked up companies and done horrible things and pass horrible because that was their model. And that's what they don't. The lowest bidder mentality. That's where we're at, and that's what's gonna be enabled coming up. That's what hemp has enabled, right? Because the hemp, cannabis conversation, high hemp, the extracting there's so many, where are the recalls gonna happen? I signed up for all these, there's no rules for

Thomas:

Again, it's all production side. It's not when you're using it. And so none of the hemp. Was earmarked for human consumption. Nobody understands that even though I told them, it's all these things, you do a video, it gets viewed a million times, people fricking then take it, use it, and they think it's law. And then it's, just so fricking annoying, but let's talk about Florida because Florida has this juxtaposition between okay, the Republicans are coming. Like they're, they want everything, bro. They want everything. And Elon is going to take all of your personal data and fire half the government and make you dependent on Tesla and SpaceX. So it's just good for business. But the reason why they had to do an amendment was because the Florida legislature hates weed so much it would never get out to a vote. So they had to put it out as a constitutional amendment, very corporate, no home grow, not going to change anything. it would basically make all of the cannabis companies that already exist in Florida a lot of money. But they had to get 60%. They only got 56%. And so it failed. Look at this. This is our first of it was over three in the red wall. the adult use red wall is very real. Oh, for three of four, legalizing it, Florida amendments to legalize recreational fall short. Wasn't the best.

Miggy:

Yeah. It doesn't. I find this to be, a prime example of America, right? Where you needed 60 percent of the vote, but 56 percent of your citizen, more than half. and I find it more unfort like living in the upside And, it's really weird to see how truly this has been made a villain in this whole process, where oh, shit, it's that time.

Speaker 3:

Take a break.

Miggy:

It's 20

Thomas:

past the hour, everybody. We'll be back to dissect more of Florida and what it means for the next four years after this short commercial break from our sponsor, Collateral Base.

Miggy:

to bring it up.

Thomas:

and that, that's what happens because I am what they call a perfectionist. And so when somebody codes something poorly like this, right here to the right, I realize this doesn't get very many views and it does not make me any money. But, we're trying to expand our product offering and then I get code like this and I'm like, okay.

Miggy:

trying, we're trying to take of your series.

Thomas:

sorts of brand offer ship stuff.

Miggy:

Yes. Yeah. No, go there. Go to the website. And if you have a grill we love to have you on a name that string, right?

Thomas:

We do not accept intoxicating hemp Sponsors.

Miggy:

goal saying truly was demonized because they're shady and look, man I'm not mad at Kim Rivers for make her bag. Your husband does I don't judge people's lives. There's,

Thomas:

There's a limited market and then there's Florida and I think Florida has gone too far. I think Missouri is the limited market that makes sense. Washington state where you're at is a great limited market that makes sense. Arizona is a, that one goes a little too far in my opinion, Illinois, if they would not have had hemp just completely make them be not 500, 600 dispensaries in the state, 16, 000. and it really is the policy goals that your state has. And then also it's the regulatory oversight that they have. And so if schedule three happens, who knows if that's going to happen, then the security compliance, banking restrictive hurdles that you face. We'll go down. And so it should be cheaper to open a dispensary, but a lot of the people in the hemp industry, they think that dispensaries are superfluous. You do not need them.

Miggy:

None of these markets are fair or they all cost 1. 5 million or so to just get even started. There's no guarantee.

Thomas:

Correct. But then it's also bullshit in the sense that all these hemp beverages, they have contracts with liquor distributors. Trying to shit on other licenses and they don't care. Again, it's all about fuck you. The money comes to me, that guy that was using my face in my video and the Donald Trump to sell THC a week, not get it that, that Cheech and Chong that are trying to stock, let me go get a Cheech and Chong's and I don't understand how they're compliant with the 0. 3 percent by dry weight basis because everything that they say on it is zero. You turn the Cheech and Chong thing over the back. There's not one gram of shit in that can except for hemp and extract. And so how is that compliant?

Miggy:

Compliant with who, right? Because the thing about legalization Compliant with the farm bill. The FDA. So

Thomas:

The FDA is you got RFK that's going to go wild on medicine and just fire half of the people in the FDA. You think that's going to help them regulate, the food supply Better? next time that McDonald's gives everybody E. coli, we might not know that it's traced to the onions?

Miggy:

Yeah. But, and again, this could be, this is going to be an example of the failings that are going to be coming, right? The crystal ball of the bullshit to come, because we already saw it four years ago, or eight years ago, right? I don't know why people are people, it's, again, it's like the whole politics,

Thomas:

They're always

Miggy:

so yeah But like I've always felt that I lived in the America that didn't was it gonna come after me as a pothead? Minority, right? Like I always felt like I had a watch over my shoulder or whatever all the time Whereas now I don't like I live in good people safe.

Thomas:

Y Walmart, Target, any store will now cost 10%, 20 percent more and said take a picture of where shit is right now or where shit will be on January 20th and then look in another four years, especially considering, AI will be four years into the future from where it is now that GPT is about two years old. Now, not just double it, but double it. And then start inserting Robots.

Miggy:

it's not even policy is like snails fucking. This is why I say, like, why is everybody mad about Kim Rivers giving 1. 7 million to put this on the ballot where you guys aren't gonna see this shit for a while again. It takes money to put things on the thing. It'd be nice. If grassroots people did shit and actually matter, but no, I think the average person is trying to survive, right? Like average American, they are

Thomas:

the average Americans trying to survive. And then, so like Kim river is 144 million. and by Kim rivers, we mean true leaf cannabis company, but, Wisconsin based herb. A Wisconsin hemp company donated 125, 000 and they won, but they had to get 60 percent of the vote and every state that's red that had adult use legalization on the ballot field. Cause everyone,

Miggy:

you haven't cared. The average citizen in Florida doesn't give a fuck, right? Like they don't care that Mylar pegs are going to go price. So it's going to probably the price of your weed. Come with the tariffs they don't look at the cannabis industry or cannabis, right? I don't even know their fear is like the immigrant invasion that's not happening Like I don't get isn't America supposed to be but then they Florida

Thomas:

pitted hemp and cannabis directly against one other and then you have DeSantis saying, I don't want Florida to smell like weed. And meanwhile, he's taking money from people that are selling weed, because if you go light up a THCA pre roll or start hitting those vapes, of course, smell way less, but still that's going to smell like weed by a lot.

Miggy:

Can, do you think the new administration is going to block rescheduling? Cause I know only we have on December 2nd, the conversation for, venting the 25 people. But. Is there going to be a post Once something's in courts and law, does it have to be scheduled or can it be small committees?

Thomas:

Oh my gosh. Yeah. that's after we place a name, that strain, I got to name that strain that then leads in to, Trump's attorney general pick. Hey, if you have not yet, don't forget to hit the likes, hit the subscribes, and then tune in for about another 20 minutes after the name, that we have a very. Special election edition name that strain that goes into what will trump pick for his attorney general as that really allows? The marching orders for what's going to happen at least at the administrative level because congress right now Yeah, dude, this could be a real thing But tomorrow they could pass a law and then biden could sign it for another two months Will the republicans care enough they have blocked every You've blocked safe banking. And so talk about dipping the toe in the water of changing the legal status of marijuana. Natural, not this frankenweed that's made in the lab after you can't sell your CBD hemp. So why the hamsters think this is going to survive is beyond me. And then we have our next story out of Florida, which makes me just continue to like, just scratch my head and be like, I don't understand why they think this is going to continue, because this one out of the Miami Herald, high potency of pesticides, marijuana being sold over the counter in Florida as hemp. This came out on November 3rd. This is a new article. and then they have some pretty interesting, totals from it, but they have Sauce, lava cake, a rechargeable vape pen and Tampa Cush cloud at 76. 1 total THC. and then smoke bodega, 19 percent total THC, psychoactive flour and all that, and say, it's one of these deals where what is. The unregulated market giving us, and then they go into later. That's in our talking points. I don't know if you have those up. No, I'm trying to, I am going back to I'm producing the show.

Miggy:

We're juggling here, folks. But like also though, cause like for me this, a hemp cannabis conversation is more important on day. Like we need to. Explain and express to people like there's so many people who are cannabis activists who are pro hemp because they're getting their foot in The door and they're getting their bag, right? That's cool. Get your bag, right? Whatever

Thomas:

Is it okay if somebody starts murdering motherfuckers to get their bag?

Miggy:

That's part of it. But like The conversation of I think the consumers get in ignorance, right?

Thomas:

pass hat that's trying to steal licenses in Chicago. Is it okay to illegally gamble to take somebody's shit?

Miggy:

the consumer though, right? As, Americans, they're being deceived to the point that like, I can consume a hemp product and not pop pot on the piss test, right?

Thomas:

false. But that is where your body is

Miggy:

regulated. Like they can regulate your body still because this plant is not, identified.

Thomas:

is dead.

Miggy:

We live in a fucked up place, but, living

Thomas:

Hey, and so much so that you can go to Florida and Lakeland's modern Canada laboratories was the tester. And they found only one of three certified by the state in that. So they were the one who was going to test it. They tested 22 joints, canisters, and bags of hemp, 12 vapes, and seven gummies were tested among those 41 samples. 35 were over the line. So they tested all of those at Lakeland Modern can Laboratories, 35 out of 41 failed. So Ron DeSantis is fine with marijuana sales provided you give him money and you don't have to call it legalization.

Miggy:

And again, this ain't about protecting the consumers like I'm looking at this jar here, I'm looking at test results. I have CBD results, I have, percentages for components of OIDs, but there's no it says independently tested pesticide free. I don't know. I trust though. I trust that the, my market here now, that these things are regulated. Like

Thomas:

if you have a testing license, that's just like the S and P 500, that happened to Us. the mortgage ratings back in 2008, you'd go down to Moody's or you go down to the S and P. somebody is going to give us a hundred percent a plus rating on this mortgage bond. That's just shit wrapped up in Shinola. And then I'm trying to sell as a security. And so they had regulators then they aren't going to spend money on the regulators. And so this is the perverse incentive. We have no federal regulators right now when it comes to marijuana or temp zero. And so hopefully we get, Some under the rescheduling, but I don't know if the rescheduling is going to happen.

Miggy:

and I also throw out to you though, see that right now it's a state thing, right? This is whole throwing things to the state is dumb bullshit that wastes your time as a citizen, but like they are Set out to break up regulation, right? Break up regulators. they think 10 rules are taken away, which is dumb shit because There's a lot of fucked up shit that happens that you learn as things go. But when you start giving this willy nilly, like free for all, it's going to be, the person who created it is not going to be held accountable, right? There's no trying to hold again. We are

Thomas:

done testing the weed. we know that. 35 out of 41 is over the line, but then 26 out of 41 out of 26 out of 41 failed pesticide and fungicide tests. And so you are taking an agricultural commodity, putting it into the food supply and advertising how it gets people high without any regulations. and then Project 2025 is coming to the Hill, Schedule 3 might grind to a halt and all that shit that's in hemp might get Schedule 1 too.

Miggy:

would it, that's the other thing too, the Farm Bill, right? Will that be a thing now? Cause these are the things that are going to affect legalization.

Thomas:

What's a farm bill? A farm bill is the USDA. It does have to do with food stamps, but then it also defines the Agricultural Marketing Act of 1946. And what is number two, yellow corn? What is oats? What is an agricultural commodity? So what is hemp as an agricultural commodity? Not as a consumable product, but as an agricultural commodity. And you're going to see that definition change. And there's reasons why we'll talk about that. And the red wall really comes down to is weed medical or not, and so that was really interesting. We got the U S day to day, follow marijuana election results across. Florida, Nebraska, South Dakota, and North Dakota. And so we've already talked about Florida at length, and now we can lump in North Dakota and South Dakota at one state because there's less than 2 million people that are there. That's absolutely true. Florida's got like 20 times, 20 plus times the population that North and South Dakota combined have together.

Miggy:

Yeah. it just, there's certain areas that, You probably should drive past through and, I hate to say it, but there's a predominance of ignorance. I live in these areas, right? It's not a, I think they

Thomas:

They don't need more. The thing is, they don't want people doing it. I don't know how much hemp is in North and South Dakota, because they're in very conservative state. There's a lot of hemp though, actually in, Nebraska right Now. that 20 odd, attorney generals that wrote the letter. The vast majority of them are probably from these very conservative states. No, that's not going away.

Miggy:

They have to have that, right? Because unless there's a rule against it in those states, which has not happened.

Thomas:

every state can say that it's not legal to do that because it's still a Schedule one substance. And then the authorities could prosecute and say, I just think there was a, lack of enforcement. And there may still continue to be a lack of enforcement, but then suddenly if they start, Enforcing the stop signs again, and you're like wait you said I didn't have to enforce this. That's not a defense, right? I

Miggy:

What do you do like I guarantee you like between all the boner pills for truck drivers that you know You get when you're on the road out there. I'm guarantee you there for that community to serve the community that's your resource is a hemp level product that is satisfying the few that are medicating that way, right? But it doesn't still enable good medicine because hemp is not weed. Hemp is supposed to be the rope, like you said, right? Like the CBD component of it. Yay. But that's also cannabis. Like it's the same. Yeah, but that

Thomas:

CBD component was a very late entrant in the sense that Jack Harer had been dead for years before they started harping about CBD, otherwise he would have been harping about it. Jack Harer died in 2010, and he had that little ship that he would show people. And nowhere on that ship did he say, and then they had CBD that they rubbed into their limbs when they were hurt. Not once because they didn't speak about it. And so then suddenly in 2018, it's Oh, extracts and derivatives. And then they just said that means all extracts, including synthetic ones. So how do you just need to like, no matter what, like any type of fentanyl, any type of drug, any type of poison, any type of alcohol, any type of anything, and you just put a drop of CBD into it and call it hemp because it's a derivative, get the fuck out of here.

Miggy:

And again the people who are making money at this are investing And they are still skirting along the law because until someone decides to enforce it, right? Like until that's real

Thomas:

dumb money that's piling in right now. And so like currently and all the other big boys, they're waiting, they're watching, they're waiting. And if shit changes, There's going to be a lot of cheap, a lot of cheap equipment to pick up because all the hamsters would be out of business. They would all tip under. Cause they probably don't have the best balance sheets to begin with. If I tried to explain to them, like what their, share price is actually worth. Glossed over. It's like they're just doing this for the cash right now. No idea what the value of their enterprise is actually worth as if it's a share of stock. That's the biggest problem that I have with it. It's just turn and burn. It's just taking something that you think you can make a quick flip on and doing it. That's not business. That's dumb Money.

Miggy:

the bottom line, right? this ounce that I have here, cause eventually, no matter how your state legalizes it, Walmart wheat's coming, right? There's going to be a Walmart of

Thomas:

Walmart. Wheat's not coming. We don't know that. It's common if you, everybody's Oh, hell has like small business. I'm like, that is the biggest Latin shit that I've ever heard. And I understand that you guys would believe it because you want to, so that you can sell weed without a license. But where do you think all this stuff that's coming from? There's four companies making all this stuff, right? All the chemical shit. It's four companies making it. One in Indiana, one in Colorado. That probably makes 70 percent of the market. No shit. Every time you sell a hemp gummy, or edible, or vape, you are enabling a monopolist. Well,

Miggy:

I

Thomas:

That's I don't care, as long as they're making the money. And so that's the thing, as soon as you start making the money, fuck everybody else. It's my money.

Miggy:

But I also question too, though, is it really being sourced in America? Because a lot of this doesn't have to be sourced for the hemp product, right? Because you have the African wheat and the China hemp, right? Like this? Are being bought in Bulk. will it be tariffs on that when that happens? But, I was shocked to see Nebraska though,

Thomas:

North Dakota did not pass measure five, 52. 5%. No. 47. 5 percent South Dakota results page showed no in the lead 55. 8 to 44. 2 with 95. 3%. adult use failed in heavily conservative States by sizable majorities. But then also in a heavily conservative state, there is a difference in people's mind between medical and adult use. So we're going to see, that's the thing. Like all these hamsters are so confident that Trump is going to be fine with all this stuff, getting people high without a license and all that, without any pesticides or testing or anything. I think you will be,

Miggy:

I don't think that would matter. There, there needs someone to be proactive. I don't think. This administration coming up is going to be like helpful for infrastructure. If they kill the chip sack and all the other shit that happened, like they're going to kill the chip sacks,

Thomas:

it's going to be very helpful for the plutocrats. It's going to be very helpful for the tech industry. I'm just like buy the queues right now, dump tossed pot stocks by the queues. Yeah, we got Nebraska and Kentucky joining

Miggy:

us 2024.

Thomas:

Nebraska is different than Kentucky. So initiative measures 4 37 and 4 38 addressed legalization of medical marijuana. Both passed 70 percent of voters passed measure 4 37 approved to ask voters to consider a statute that would allow the legalization possession acquisition up to five ounces of medical person. But medical cannabis with a written recommendation from a health care provider and then initiative for 38, about 70%, 67 percent voting in favor as voters to consider a statute that legalized the possession, manufacture, distribution, delivery, and dispensing of cannabis for medical purposes by registered private entities being a business. The statute would also establish the Nebraska medical cannabis commission to regulate the industry. I really recommend that, your regulator should not be spread over a whole bunch of administrative bodies. that don't talk to one another. We have that in Illinois. it's not the best.

Miggy:

No, Nebraska. And then the reason why I brought up Nebraska and Kentucky, because this is, these are both medical initiatives that pass, but people will say, and I've said it in the chat today already, they'll say it in the chat tomorrow, next time, whatever is that hemp legalized marijuana and you're full of shit prop two 15 in California. Created the conversation and enable people to realize loom glooms not here. You know all these THC comments THCA you're not getting real fucking weed period like I Sorry, Kentucky. You're getting that hemp

Thomas:

They're starting to shut that down. The Delta nine is being heavily regulated in Kentucky. and then you're going to see more of that, as the dispensary lottery, God forbid, happens, in about two weeks before Thanksgiving, no lawsuits are filed and then the clients win licenses. that's the ideal, but we'll see. Nebraska is not necessarily that big, because there's only about 900, 000 people in it. But the big thing is adult use, not something red states care for.

Miggy:

Cool, he's really emphasizing the CECA thing, but and again, we don't, one of the failings too, about this whole conversation is lab testing, standardization. That needs to be on a even kill Platform. we're not going to probably get time to it, but recently there's these agencies in the background, ASTM, there are engineering nonprofit people who investigate and trying to come to a collaboration of what is a fundamental, like need to test metals, pesticides, and all that shit. But you need real adults in the room to do that. And hopefully. You don't get real adults when you have to plead fidelity to something. You get real adults who have passion and care about, a subject or an interest in science, biomed. Fauci. And not, when I say we the fucking weirdos. we're gonna go through this shit again?

Thomas:

Oh, but hey, we don't have a name that strain anymore in the clips roll. And so I got enough time to poke around, but I don't see it. So we'll just do a little bit of technical difficulties. We'll play some name that strain, and then we're going to skip the next three stories and then go into, the AG pick. We're gonna skip Texas or mention Texas in two minutes, but we'll talk about Texas as we do the name that strain.

Miggy:

Texas is number three in our fucking viewers, dude. We need to like appease texas

Thomas:

right now, and I will

Miggy:

So i'll

Thomas:

What you're seeing right there is weed

Miggy:

Oh, I was just going to ask you. That's a nice, is this qualifies him? I believe, this is

Thomas:

literally hemp. That is one of the hints. This one is literally hemp. not like I want to sell weed and not get arrested. Hemp. This is literally hemp, named after somebody who a lot of people give them credit for. And then maybe you want to talk about what's going on in Texas and I'll give him more hints later.

Miggy:

So several counties have passed, levels of decriminalization, Bastrop. De penalization measure? Pass. Yay for Bastrop. Dallas one of the bigger places, passed, de penalization as well.

Thomas:

better hit than its parents being Afghan stunk skunk and, the hemp strain. Those are its parents.

Miggy:

Another question. I always thought hemp was supposed to be the boy, right?

Thomas:

No, hemp was supposed to be the cannabis that you used for non medical purposes. That was hemp.

Miggy:

Come in. But that, you could use it

Thomas:

for the purposes of hemp.

Miggy:

Oh, the female plants. Yeah. It is Trump, but it's, what's his, Durban Poison Lover.

Thomas:

Trump number one is a potent hybrid of the wife strain and Afghani skunk. We're going to share, it appears to be a COA, but like whenever I see a COA, I'm like, that's cute. Did you print this out yourself? because that's how little like confidence that I have in, anybody that's trying to make money from hemp, that's not trying to make it like in fiber or in food

Miggy:

Again, the standardization for the lab testing is, still questionable. But yeah, so what is this, plainjane. com?

Thomas:

It's a plan j. com, but it has like it's a little, and see that Delta nine THC 0. 1 there you go 0. 1 total cannabinoids 22 CBD 2. 6 and there is by weight CBD a was the vast majority of it, not THC a CBD a. And so total cannabinoids 21. 99 calculated delta 9 THC yield of 0. 28 calculated yield includes both. all the THCA cowboys forgot that that's, interesting.

Miggy:

Is that a 17, 18 a gram?

Thomas:

that is 18 for a quarter.

Miggy:

So these are the prices we got to be worried about eventually.

Thomas:

Did it pass any of the tests that your weed that's supposed to be for human use would pass the mycology, the pesticides, the heavy metals. Those aren't in this COA. Because they're not being required because it's not supposed to be for human consumption like I'm taking crazy pills. Everybody watched me do a video two years ago. It was in July of 23. And then satire is a thing just because I'm giving you the information and it doesn't make any sense. Doesn't mean you should go like make a whole bunch of money and not pay me any.

Miggy:

The tissue pool. Yes. That's what I'm talking About. It's an unfortunate, it's the thing that people are trying to ride on in hemp as not get pulled over and lose my product, which they are doing right. Like we're not getting this federal standardization. Like it, at least it happened. Like you're all putting your shit at risk no matter what. No, who doesn't put their shit at risk is the guy going to the gas station, buying it that's the only person in this whole scenario that the gas station.

Thomas:

They're happy to go from the cold memos tuning in check out his stuff. and The thing is like no, they aren't. Yes. They are and no they aren't and so They are positioning because they're either going to be greenlit for five more years with the new farm bill And then they will crush all of these small businesses that love the hemp industry or what will happen is they Don't have to get into the THCA hemp world because they've put kibosh on it and project 2025 Has everything they have all three branches the courts Both houses of congress and the president and elon musk who's not the biggest fan of weed. We're so fucked Especially like my So you have all of that and they're just going to wait. And so like I have MSO clients that I talked to and then I'm like, what are you gonna do? It's we already have all the distribution and all that stuff. It's just a little gray. I guess we'll see that hemp doesn't understand. They think that if they get five more years, it's called going to be hunky Dory. No, all the monopolists that aren't already selling you all the products will be there and they'll occupy the field.

Miggy:

Do you remember there used to be a time that cannabis actually had a culture, right? This hemp thing is not really a culture.

Thomas:

since 2018

Miggy:

I think it's slowly evolves. So again, back to the last two in Texas, we've got one good and one bad Texas Lockhart didn't penalize, but Texas Lubbock, if you're there, I believe there's a prison there. I think it's a federal prison. your S. O. L. They did not think it was

Thomas:

Hey, you know what we should talk about next? Some more news that has to do with the presidential election, which, of course, is our main story and our focus of the show. We're going to take a deep dive in just a second about what might be the next five years From the farm bill to schedule three, because we're going to have to talk about the administration. Do you know who Trump's thinking about picking for his attorney general?

Miggy:

No, I'm sure.

Thomas:

turning off the news, buddy. It's brand new, turning off the news. Yep. But this stuff's brand new in the sense that it came out on November 8th. Trump Justice, who will Donald Trump name as the US Attorney General. That is super important. You guys might not understand that, but it's just like gen know Biden. Issued the order directing his attorney general to do shit. So is Trump on day one after he's again, try to get it like a restaurant after Trump has deported all the Mexicans. Good luck with that. Try to get some strawberries too. But, either way, day one, deport all the illegal immigrants. I'm sorry to pick on Mexico. I didn't mean to do that, but they always say they're coming from the border. It's he's never talking about the Canadian border. the Haitians, they don't share a border with us. They would have had to take a plane. He did start talking about planes. Still never talked about the Canadian border. Either way, you need to have an attorney general and that attorney general then will tell the DEA what to do. So on day two, let's give him seven days. he can be like Jesus and shit, or God creating the universe that is making America great again. So like on day eight, cause on day seven, he rests and he doesn't do any executive orders. Day eight, he could do an executive order saying, Continue to reschedule marijuana to schedule three. Yeah, I agree with that. Keep it safe. Address the hemp issue. will he, I don't know, but then who does he put in charge of the attorney general's seat? Because that person right now could be like, Oh, you, do you guys remember the Cole memo from the Obama administration saying don't prosecute these license holders in these States? And then Jeff Sessions, Jeff, good people don't use marijuana sessions. So did Jeff Sessions he's gone now, but. he withdrew that memo, but the policy continued. Will the policy continue again? I don't know, but let's look at who he's looking at for picking an attorney general. We have a few of them and my favorite. I'm going to start with that's Mike Lee. Mike Lee is a Senator from Utah, which does have a medical program. It's very restricted, but it is a medical program. He co sponsored the states act, which was not like the caca act the COA CA, that was the Democrat bill. So he sponsored the Republican bill. For allowing the states to legalize cannabis or to set the regulations for cannabis, how they want, doesn't that also fit the, it's going to fix the hemp problems. It's going to fix the, the marijuana problems and the safe banking. So Mike Lee is who I'm pulling for out of the short list. Are these an actual list?

Miggy:

No, this

Thomas:

is an actual list from this article from the USA today.

Miggy:

Okay.

Thomas:

So that's the one that I would be like, that's the best one for cannabis. The whole plant, even hemp, which again, if you want to see what hemp is, go to YouTube and enter into it. Jack Harer boat or sailboat hemp video. And it should come up. It is a wonderful video. He will not mention CBD once.

Miggy:

But,

Thomas:

yeah.

Miggy:

Rescheduling it is the only thing that's momentumized for citizens in every state to be equally legal. And the only reason why this is such an important issue is because Congress ain't going to get this shit together. Trump might humbly dummy some shit, but it's not going to be probably good. I guarantee, where, you can, you gotta have infrastructure. There's gotta be a process, a flow chart, a way that things get made to be. Remember the great toilet paper war of 2018?

Thomas:

Actually it was 2020, like inflation's gone. And so he started his first term. With things being great. And by the time after three years, like just, complete shit. And so he's starting now and it's gonna be 2025 by 2028. I shit you not, if Elon Musk's robots are bankrupting people en masse, because his trucks drive, his trucks have a Tesla bot that are there, they don't need you as a job, they don't need you at Walmart, they don't need you at Amazon, they don't need you to drive a truck, they don't need you Is that going to look like in four years, if they don't need a lawyer because the lawyers will be, they still might need a doctor, but they won't want a doctor. They still, they won't want a lawyer either. They'll just have the lawyer for his law license or her law license to blame that person in case the robot makes a mistake.

Miggy:

Elon never made anything. He only bought stuff, right? Like it's only been good investments tonight. The guy's an actual fucking rocket scientist or a, A data scientist. He's just some guy like, like does fields. So the next four years are going to be a fucking wild rollercoaster of like unsanitary weird shit. Like the dude named his kid, aBCDFG,

Thomas:

which is also not her name, but the person we don't want for the attorney general is John Ratcliffe. Okay. If he names John Ratcliffe, sell all your hemp holdings just, get out of the industry because that guy, he's certainly a national intelligence director, and us representative from Texas. Fourth congressional district, never prominently addressed marijuana or hemp like legalization, even voted against the safe banking act in 2019 voted against measures to prevent the justice department from prosecuting cannabis, the Robacher fire amendment, even voted against the Robacher fire amendment. So if John Ratcliffe is named and approved as the attorney general, We'll know we're all Screwed.

Miggy:

we'll smoke our weed still, no matter what, because

Thomas:

We leave in legal States. And so they seem to appreciate States rights. That's why I like, Mike Lee. Mike Lee was more States rights. We'll see about that. But, the next thing, and so all these people that I hear about saying there's going to be hemp for years because the Republicans have won. look at Ohio. Ohio lawmaker wants to prohibit selling intoxicating hemp products.

Miggy:

There's gotta be a platitude of legalization that these two are gonna meet. That's just freaking inevitable if you want some sort of good plant, some sort of good product, right? This gas station hemp light stuff is ridiculous for the end consumer. It's not healthy. It's not a it's just, and again, people were gonna be like, Oh, like I said, small business, it's not small business doing this and pushing truckloads of Stuff. some people are small, like that's their whole investment, right? Like this one crop, you hope it doesn't test hot. So now you got to pay off a lab to give you some weird ass numbers for a CUA. There's so many, variables that can go wrong trying to be legal, trying to and that's the thing, right? I know you're saying they want to skirt the law, but right now there's all these people on the bandwagon trying to be legal somewhat. You still got some shit going through. You're about to go through some more pains. you jumped into the game. a little way too early for this federal legalization thing. Cause there's still gonna be rules. And Tom was saying, you got the cash cow, when you're a drug dealer, when you're the source product or whatever, they got an ATM, so they don't know what their bottom line is. One of the points I was talking about with Walmart, Reed is like our big bro. Here's fat panda, our big revenue generator every state has this now, and I'm pretty sure now they're probably MSO type style, but when a business gets that large, but they have a bottom line and honestly do this stuff's pretty good. I am not mad. At the quality of this plant that I get, knowing the size of the row, right? I would love to have, craft cannabis. I'd love to have my own fat panda, but

Thomas:

you want to sponsor the program. We could have your brain there, and also there. And then the, name, that strange would be fat panda based, but Get at us over at cannabislegalizationnews. com. Here is some more bad news. This state Senator, it's Steve Huston. He's a Republican from tip city that would ban the sale of intoxicating hemp. Senate bill three, two, six set to return for a lame duck session. And that would define intoxicating hemp as more than 0. 5 milligram of Delta nine or two milligrams of Delta nine per package. That is. Putting them out of business. Yeah.

Miggy:

They're saving their cannabis industry, they're trying to protect the, now the new licensed.

Thomas:

have adult use Ohio. Yeah. But then we've seen this red wave where it's, Hey, they don't want adult use, they're okay with medical. Are they protecting the purity of the product that's being put on shelves by saying like this stuff, we don't know about this stuff out of the Miami Herald corroborates that like they took all the products from the local hemp shops and you can, they're doing the study right now in Texas and there's 7, 000 shops in Texas and I will guarantee you if you go buy a Just let's say somebody gives you 300, 000 to do a study, as has been done now twice by the federal government in Texas, and you'd spend 10, 000 buying a whole bunch of products and then 280, 000 doing the actual science and writing about the study. What's that going to show us?

Miggy:

Just let me give you this. the incentive for states to regulate hemp, the incentive to combine both markets, hemp, cannabis, cannabis as Is because, if these guys in Indiana are buying gas station weed so like the Indiana cannabis market, people are losing out, right? Cause we're going through this right now in Illinois. Illinois is trying to make their little baby, right? I find it funny because again, our inboxes, we have different stories that we come across, that the Illinois hemp business owners are now trying to do the whole like war on drugs argument, right? That's. Redundant, like the whole social equity. They're coming after us now. No motherfucker. There needs to be a joint law. There needs to be a, like the farmer needs to win here. Let this guy, man, woman, person, duck animal elephant, grow without worrying about 0. 3%. Because you're going to have either, weed you can sell in a store or weed you got to sell on the gas station or weed you got to oop, it fell off a truck somewhere. Like I, you know what I'm saying? Like that, kind of pressure is pretty fucked up.

Thomas:

That's where we're at right now, but. Yep. that's exactly where we're at. And then it's one of these things where this is not a marijuana moment. Shout out to them. We talk about them basically every week and I'm sure everybody's got their newsletter and they should. More than half a million dollars to analyze hemp derived products that are growing in popularity. This is out of National Institute of Standards and Tech, Sam Houston University in Texas. So you distinguish between hemp and marijuana vape products. What do you think they're going to be doing? They're going to go out there and they're going to buy a whole bunch of stuff. the separate grant to Sam Houston state university in Texas is meanwhile meant to support development of analytical methods to distinguish between hemp and marijuana. They're on to you, bro. They know they're coming.

Miggy:

Yeah, but that's the thing is, the farmer needs to win here. That's who we're. No, but we should, right? No, like I know corn farmers suck. And I know that cause how many there's only two or three corn fucking

Thomas:

large Industries. There's several thousand actually like more than it's 64 percent of Iowa is mortgage free and I signed from the quorum. but yeah, it's one of those deals where it is a fascinating thing about how much cash flow you can get from farming, but that is a row crop agricultural commodity. We don't do that with him. We grow it like a horticultural crop. And so it's more like strawberries. I don't know what the big strawberry market is. But I don't think there's that many farms that farm the strawberries. And so some people's business model is to be that farm. I've read like the person that was granted that Shane Pennington represents that they are like the biggest glasshouse in Canada and Texas. And so like they are going to be big weed and they want clarity from the feds. And then they'll get their investment money. That's it. Everybody, the problem that we have in this industry is that everybody that's in it has a very personal relationship with the plant and a lot of them are activists and they forget that there's straight up business people involved.

Miggy:

No, there is there's cutthroat business people, but. As an American to, empower and enable, the farmer locally. Cause right now with hemp being the legal standard, we're, getting all this outsourced material. that's why the farmer's losing out so hard. that's why the American economy is losing out. If we keep, outsourcing. Which is cheaper, right? These guys are bringing in China hemp, getting it manufactured, extracted, whatever. They turn that into the infused product. And now you're getting those gummies in Texas, right? With a COA, nothing says that all this shit's made in America.

Thomas:

we're shooting ourselves in the dick right now. Like this is the only regulation is that it was at the time it was tested for potency. It was below the line end of list. It is bullshit and it will change. And so our next story has to do with tech and then we'll do one about.

Miggy:

Oh, Hey, this is what I was talking about earlier with the, New cannabis standards address quality management and manufacture practices. why here? So the ASTM international, like I was talking about, their subsection D 37 addresses cannabis, testing and processes and standards. And then also now they're added a new one, D 8 5 5 6. Provides a concise set of QMS requirements. So that's a quality management systems. Things you're looking at, like me, the lab I run is a electronics lab. And then my, purpose is to make sure that, my customer has the best measurement. The, knowing the tools are using are what they are. So that's what these guys are part of. They're helping standardize. What are we looking for? Metals. what kind of pesticides and what processing, chromatography, spectrometry, the different ways of just how to get there. And that's like where we need. Like each state being so different, it's always been part of my I don't trust the 29% let's all have the same methodology. So we can all understand like the consumer transparency. Now, part of the problem lab testing is it takes time for products to come through, right? There's a bandwidth, like with this biomed stuff, this. To do the testing. So that's one of the things I think we fell as a consumer. We don't understand like why things take so long for process. if you're servicing different vendors, different stores, it just takes a while and the more time I get, but yeah, there's people working for that, true weed, that true experience, right? I met some people here, dude. they're Dewey's, Dewey's is the name of the cannabis company. And, the growers are all fucking chemical engineers. These guys have fucking phenomenal weed you think like We're past the days of the 70s and 60s. We're like the hippie growing now It's people like really with a passion and but homegrown will be the true legalization when we get there But hemp is this and even have processes for testing hemp, by the way, like this whole conversation The regulation though, that's the issue right? When do we? You Say, okay we're gonna put you in jail and it should be post harvest. How do we get to that point, Tom? Like rescheduling is the only way I know how to get disparity. I don't understand any other path, right? Like, Trump is not going to fucking do anything or Congress.

Thomas:

don't know. that's one of the reasons why I, there are no answers. It is a highly, risky. Yeah, we've mitigated our risk for what we plan to do as much as we can until we have clarity at the federal level. But here is some stock news to end up before we say that's our show for the week. Let's do a quick. Summary. this is true leaf cannabis corp. Stock ticker, TCNNF, and it is down 43 percent over the past week. As you can see here, it was going from about 11, and then suddenly it dropped to about 5. So it lost 42 percent last week. And then you can see one day. it lost on Friday alone. It lost another 9%. let's check out it's peer group. It's peer group is down here. Let's go to green thumb industries. Everybody hates these guys. They all call them the monopolists. If only they knew. Monopoly wasn't help. Go ahead.

Miggy:

Go back. Go back to truly in answer me this because this you can help educate me about stocks where I understand business a sense of like it's like eating food, right? You won't lose weight you better Get less and do more or whatever, right? So this truly sock just took a shit for a minute, but they reported positive quarterly earnings recently It's like, how does that stock, because I thought like the more money as a business you're bringing in this cash goes to the value of your whole shebang. So that's one of the

Thomas:

reasons why I can't wait for us to go public. Take some time, and we are going to be diversified if anything Hopefully we're more of a berkshire hathaway. That's just basically a holding company and then we will go over assets being securities or other Offerings and ownership that you can have of particular things that is Chum i'm gonna put that up. Okay, and so this is trump media group And so over the past five days, it really hasn't done much, which is quite fascinating after the past month, it should be up quite a bit more. And the reason for this is truth social, the financials on it make no sense, correct? Like there it's got a beta, which basically means if the stock market goes up or down by 1%, it goes up or down by 5. 5%. Correct. So it lost 19 million in the last quarter and they reported those earnings on election day. The only reason that stock has any value is because you at home think it does.

Miggy:

What if though, say per se, the website crashes in this cause they're not, they're negative, right?

Thomas:

They are lo they lost$19 million. We didn't lose$19 million last quarter. I have obligations and jobs and there's some ar but I ha I tighten up our collections to, it's no, you don't pay us after 90 days, you're sued. Is stock like an NFT though? You know what I'm saying? I'm like, what if the website crashes? Yes. And no, it is. And so stocks can make no sense. That's what Tesla makes no sense as well. And our CFO Slobodan, we'll just we'll, I'll have like long discussions with him over like the price action of certain aspects. And, I tell him like, he thinks like short Tesla, short, it makes zero sense. I'm like, that's why you should go along it or at least be flat it. And don't try to trade it because it doesn't make no sense. And avoid that, because the market, like you only see all the bodies and the tide goes out, the tide ain't out. And so you're going to have all sorts of, they call it animal spirits or irrational exuberance, and the stocks don't make no sense. But then like with our C corp, the way that we'd be able to value it is called a discounted cashflow analysis. here's the money we made, here's the expense that we had. Here's the cashflow that you have. That equals a share price. but then once you put it in a public market, you can still report those earnings per share and those earnings every quarter, like we made this much money. We spent this much money. This is where we're projecting for the next year. This is our build. This is what we're going to use for the allocation of the retained earnings and yada, yada, and so depending on how fast your sales are growing, you can get what they call like very high PE price to earnings ratios. Hey, if you're just tuning in, did you know that I used to be a stockbroker after I graduated from law school? It's true. it was 2008. And so I now use my stock broken for, making me use business, They were going to see a sales explosion. And so the stock market is a leading indicator in the sense that it is pricing in data before it happens. And so they were pricing in the risk that they would make a bazillion million dollars into the future into the share price of Trulief. And it turned out that was false. And so it then sold off 40%, which of course is way too much for it to sell off. It will still probably grow or at least make the same amount of cash flows. But this quarterly profit thing is very real in our license and it will prevent Us from being able to be as lucrative as possible because the medical people that are already publicly traded will do everything in their power to ensure that they can beat on earnings, including fucking US sober, and then getting into hemp and taking all their shit.

Miggy:

No, I get you now you're look at bigger picture, like sub, but the hamsters

Thomas:

and like the activists don't even fucking understand this stuff, and I'm like. Okay, we need some regulations here. Let's shut this down. Let's make sure that goes this way. Two percent. That was a 420 again. That's our show everybody. Let's wrap this up. Do we have any other stories? That is our show. We end with bye bye cannabis money and then I want to give you guys a little bit of something to look forward to. You can come see Miggy and me. Yeah, that's right. We will both be at the MJ BizCon So it is the manufacturer per billion. They have the growers, they have the retailers and now the manufacturers. And we will be doing our podcast from, oh, there I am. I'm one of the, maybe we'll also be there. We are still in discussions. I got to talk to Dimitri over at META this coming week. I will also be in Jefferson City, Missouri on Tuesday for the marijuana microbusiness licenses in Missouri and then I will be doing a phone conference with the editorial board of the Sun times the Chicago Sun times on Tuesday because now we're in the Veto session. And I want them to make sure that they put hemp back to where it belongs on a shift, not in your pipe. that's cannabis that we need that stuff tested and regulated.

Miggy:

Yeah. And then if you want to meet up on there, cause I'm going to leave there on the fourth, fifth and sixth, hit me an email, I'll schedule it. Cause I'm, I think that MJ business is such a, kind of a cool time where. to see what the process of legalization is it's so like manufacturing business is, not the sexiest thing, but it pays a lot of bills, and it pays for those lives. And yeah, no. So it's cool to see it's such a big event where it's all out of walking, my knees doing better. So I'll be able to, I had to sit down a lot last time, but,

Thomas:

We'll play some pickleball.

Miggy:

be great.

Thomas:

Because that's the other thing, right? We'll be doing interviews. And so we're going to make some content for this. We need to buy some gear and then we'll get there. and then we'll have more episodes, You can hit us up over at mjbiz. com. We hope to see you. Thank you for tuning in. We'll be back next week, hopefully with more news.

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