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Federal Cannabis Legalization News | Lawsuit Dismissed & Appeal Filed
Curious about the future of cannabis legalization and its profound implications? Discover the latest developments, from Tommy Chong’s prison release anniversary to pivotal federal actions on the Schedule 1 status of cannabis. We explore how political landscapes and upcoming elections could reshape cannabis reform, the potential impact of rescheduling cannabis to Schedule 3, and the crucial need for FDA rulemaking to unlock interstate commerce of cannabis products. Staying informed and engaged with pro-cannabis media is vital for driving meaningful change, and we’re here to guide you through every twist and turn.
Unearth the legal intricacies of cannabis regulation in the U.S., where historical precedents like the 1941 wheat farmer case continue to influence modern laws. We examine the dynamic interplay between state and federal regulations, the persistent challenges posed by the Schedule 1 classification, and the burgeoning legal discourses around weed tourism and privacy rights. Explore the benefits of rescheduling cannabis to Schedule 3, the importance of strategic legal counsel for new licenses, and the ongoing environmental debate between indoor and outdoor cultivation.
Join us as we spotlight the relentless efforts of cannabis advocates across the nation. From Nebraska's medical marijuana battle to the thriving hemp industry and its significant economic potential, we discuss the highs and lows of cannabis legalization in traditionally conservative states. Learn about the recent legal issues involving Starbucks and Star Buds Flowers, the challenges of compliance costs, and the influence of celebrity-endorsed cannabis ventures. This episode is your comprehensive guide to understanding the current cannabis landscape and the fight for legalization across America.
you are tuned into the number one cannabis news source on youtube. It's cannabis legalization news. Thank you for joining us. You must want to legalize too. Hey, fun, fun fact. And if you did not know this, I hope that you smash like, click, subscribe, if you haven't already. 20 years ago to the day, do you know who got out of jail, tommy Chong, for the last time? Actually, he was out of prison. We do not have a story about prison, but we do have a story about Schedule 1, cannabis at the federal level. There was an appeal filed on that lawsuit by Schiller Boys and we have a lot more news to unpack for July 7th 2024. Welcome to a whole new episode, and let's bring on Miggy and go over the news of the week. What up, yo? Oh, I don't know, but something must be be wrong. It says only one people are watching us, and so did we. Only one. That doesn't make any sense. Up now it's up to 52 immediately. Um, yeah, so how was your week, good man.
Speaker 2:I mean a lot's been happening right.
Speaker 1:Uh, democracy's on the line and all that bullshit uh, it's on the line, yes, and then, uh, we now have a king and his name is. Biden, he can do whatever he wants, but in theory, in 120 days there's another election, Unless he cancels it. I mean, I guess he can cancel the election after that opinion came out. I don't know if that's really a thing, though.
Speaker 2:Well look folks, it's too late in the game to change horses. This is what we got, but the other, the?
Speaker 1:one we have right now the other horse is not a horse, it's actually a wolf that's eaten a horse and is expecting you to just ignore Project 2025, which, by the way, project 2025 says nothing about cannabis legalization way.
Speaker 2:Project 2025 says nothing about cannabis legalization. Well, and it's rescheduling as we got this ball going, it's ever more important. If you do want legalization, if you do want something, uh, this is the time. This is how it happens. This is how we're going to get some change. When it comes to, uh, people filing taxes, people doing licenses, uh, the hemp marijuana baby's gonna happen like. This is all shit that needs to happen now. We want it to happen yesterday, but to have it happen, you're going to have to vote for him, and that's what it is. It's nothing. He might be freckled. He's 81 years old.
Speaker 1:But the other guy is 78. Whomever wins is the oldest person ever elected to the office, and one of them is a convicted felon and a reputed liar and the other one may be his best. Obviously his best years are behind him. But it's the administration that they have and changing the administration so that like, ok, it's schedule three, it's still illegal. It's schedule three, it's still illegal.
Speaker 1:We need rulemaking at the federal level again for a different administration, for a different administration. Well, a different, yeah, the Food and Drug Administration, the FDA, so the FDA. There's these two laws that interact, and so there's the Controlled Substances Act, and then there's the Food, drug and Cosmetic Act, and so we move it to Schedule 3, great, our dispensary is still not completely federally legal. We can't put in a purchase order from California for some sun-grown Humboldt, like we fucking want to. We would have to wait until you're allowed to put it into interstate commerce, and for that we would need to amend through the rulemaking process that the FDA has the right to do and create a new lane for a Schedule 3 natural marijuana product. That is not. There's no novel drug application. There's no new drug application that will allow compliance with the FDCA, even after it's schedule three under the CSA.
Speaker 2:And not even with the compliance with the CSA and say other treaties or whatever the hell you have with you. You know I've got this ounce of donkey butter. I just bought it at a store I trust. I know it's going to be its quality. It's unfortunately a little expensive because the taxes are way too high.
Speaker 1:Not perfect Low prices. You bought an ounce of donkey butter out the door.
Speaker 2:How much, $2.40 for that one that's expensive, though it's a high end. I want the high end Just for the simple fact that my lungs are too precious. Thanks to Weed Dieter, I know you hate half the shit we say when we talk about the Trump-Biden shit.
Speaker 1:Whatever His name's going in the credits, I know Appreciate you man.
Speaker 1:Shout out to the members. Your names will be in the credits. We have something else for you guys to get involved in, especially for the entrepreneurs that tune in. If you work in the industry, we encourage you to tell them to put on high at nine news in your dispensary. Put on cannabis legalization news in your dispensary and all the other great YouTube selections that are out there ProCannabis Media, like. If you want news, procannabis is great, and then there's a bazillion excellent pro channels Because mainstream media isn't covering it, like nobody is talking about it. The Biden campaign I get I probably get 10 texts a day and 70 emails. Not one has been about legalizing it, but everyone is about whether or not you stand with Biden and give me money please.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's how we got through Iraq, though. This is politics, this is a process. People get all butthurt when we talk about vote blue right now or whatever, but these are legit options if you want to have progress to what is beyond what we've been already. I've said before I had hair on top of my head when I started this whole thing just with trying to want to change the law and think you know things can be better. But the process, the legislation, the real way to get things going to where you know we can have a mailing list of goods. You know people are skirting around this TAC loophole, whatever.
Speaker 2:Delta 9. Pick your part of hemp that you want with the COA, you know, and you hope that's going to justify it in a court of law. But you know how many times have products been stopped? You know interstate-wise that was hemp. You know, and are those people get reimbursed with that product? No, you know they'll hold on to that product storage. Go through their court rulings. The product goes bad. You know they'll hold on to that product storage. Go through their court rulings. The product goes bad. You lose. You know how much money you already at that point. So descheduling it rescheduling it rather, is the path Right, like that's the way that we need to go right now, just so eventually, once the can of hemp baby does happen overall. But this will allow for the pathway for using credit cards, maybe taxes, you know, marketing.
Speaker 1:Listing on the NASDAQ interstate commerce. So we definitely want to carry. We want to be a value priced dispensary and if you want to learn more about our dispensary, we're going to have like a backdoor kind of or backstage insight about us creating this. But we can't put it on the channel. We try to put that on the channel. It'll get flagged, We'll get taken down and so there'll be a members only area. That will launch in about a month, hopefully after we get the real estate nailed down. So we're still working on nailing down real estate. Yeah, it's a hard thing.
Speaker 2:Like it's like the thing that we do is illegal or something. Well, the business side of things, anything with cannabis, it touches it right, like how you talked about uh um, us being in uh pot shops. You know streaming and they're a little like. You know there are companies have done that right like there's so many ancillary parts to this industry. You know the cannabis industry industry that once it becomes federally, you know there's so many just ifs where, federally legal, we have a pretty much you know, even killed equality way to do business. You know, for lack of a better word, Right on, man, right on.
Speaker 1:But let's get into the story that really came out. It came out on Monday. A lot of stories came out on Monday. The Dales report was reporting on it and then so it was. It evolved over the course of the week and so the opinion came out on Monday, and that's when Matt Zorn nailed it on on drugs, giving a backstory as to the case that had been dismissed, the Schiller boys case and again, it's not really called Schiller boys, they're just a very large law firm. The district works in a can of provisions case is what it was, and there's a 15 page opinion. It was I'm not going to say it's a nothing burger of an opinion, but it kind of was, in the sense that this case right here, gonzalez versus Raich and that might actually be called Raich 2 in some circles, but that's the Supreme Court opinion from 2005, establishing the outer perimeter which is a new term of art that the Supreme Court seems to like of the commerce power, the interstate commerce, the Commerce Clause power for the legislature in our United States Constitution. It is still the law of the land and it has been since before Joe Biden was born In 1941, wickard B Filburn had to do with a case of a farmer growing a plot of wheat for his personal bread collection, for family use, and that was outside the bounds of what he was allowed to do, and again.
Speaker 1:So if you're getting all up in arms, you can't grow weed like it's tomatoes. This wheat farmer from 1941 was shut down. So you know, learn your history a little bit. He was not allowed to grow this amount of wheat because he was over his quota and he said but this is for me. I'm just growing this for me. I'm going to go, there's my grist mill, I'm going to go make bread for myself and my family. None of this wheat is going to leave the state. It doesn't matter. It still impacts interstate commerce because, take it in the aggregate, it will have an impact on the price of wheat in the interstate market. Same thing for the Rage case, same thing for this year case Canna Provisions versus the United States.
Speaker 1:Merrick Garland is who they sued as the attorney general, and so they even mentioned weed tourism in here. So people Will. He's behind the scenes making sure everything looks good and moving us around. He'll go to Michigan to make a legal adult transaction. I'll go to Michigan to make a legal adult transaction. Sometimes that's not necessarily weed tourism, but it kind of is. Now, if you have weed tourism specifically there, now we have people that are coming to your location to look at your farm and buy your wares. That's interstate commerce, but also the quantity of the product that you have. And so one of the places where you can put your dispensary at least for right now, before medical marijuana is legal nationwide is on the border of, for example, in your state of Washington, in the border of Idaho, in my state of Illinois, the border of Iowa or Indiana. If you put a border dispensary there, you're going to get interstate commerce and wild lands go like that.
Speaker 2:That tourism part, though. That is an argument by the Department of Justice, and they argue that in-state cannabis activities influence interstate commerce by drawing out of state tourists. I think that's interesting, though, that they use that as an argument in the states that already exist now that have legal weed right.
Speaker 1:Congress has the power to regulate interstate commerce. It's not an absolute power, but it is an enumerated power under our Constitution. They have the power to do that. That's how they were regulating weed. My beef is Schedule 1, the classification itself is bananas. That's unconstitutional. They them saying that it's beyond their power to regulate interstate commerce. That's cool. And the real thing is that they're setting up these appeals, which they'll lose, to try to get in front of the Supreme Court, which is quite conservative and loves overturning long-held precedent, whether it's 50-year-old abortion rights or like.
Speaker 1:The problem with that case had nothing to do with abortion. It did, but it really was your right to privacy with your doctor, and so that right to privacy with your doctor does not exist. I don't understand how you can have freedom if you don't have privacy. Please enlighten me on that. How can you be free if you can't have the right to be left alone and be in peace? But then also, they just overturned the Chevron decision, which for 40 years stood that the experts typically are the regulating agencies and the judges. They don't really like. The judges understand the law.
Speaker 2:They don't understand the OSHA regulations for example, I think your misconception and understanding of like what the law is, because I mean, you're a lawyer, you're a constitution. This is why I fuck with you, man, because you study constitution, you study law, you're pragmatic and, in the end, what America is? An ideal right when our law is fair and just. But sometimes the people in the system, the ones making decisions, are not so fair and just. In fact, they're like the politicians who take the biggest bag. Right, like you know, clarence L Thomas, you know, like there's things that are not fair, like there's things that are not fair, but like with scheduling three, like, like we're like rescheduling it, it would give that ball going forward. Right, this is the chance. Right, like four, 20 will be more than just a, a, a community thing, but it'll be like a, a novelty thing where people remember. Remember when we used to arrest people for weed.
Speaker 1:Remember you know, 20 years ago today, tommy Chong got out of federal prison for glass man Glass. And now 20 years later, we have an appeal filed which is substantially similar to the Rage case from 20 years ago. When are we going to actually evolve and get beyond this kind of stuff, because they've been doing this for forever.
Speaker 1:Man, oh, 420 somewhere let's uh take a quick, quick commercial break and we shall be right back. And while Collateral Base is the consulting firm that I own, we are redesigning the law firm's website, so I can share my.
Speaker 1:Figma, I'm going to say share that tab instead. And so we're going to be relaunching CannabisIndustryLawyercom and we're working on the wireframes for that in Figma. Cannabisindustrylawyercom it's actually where most of our clients start from, and then we see whether or not you're looking for a consultant or a lawyer. If you're looking for a lawyer, you're usually not looking for a new license. We consider new licenses as a consulting matter.
Speaker 2:So, figma, you're speaking using a lot of terms and things that I don't use because I don't use them, things that I don't really care about you internet, you just don't, you don't develop. Well, the Figma is, so that's a developing thing, or is it one of those?
Speaker 1:Figma is a development. Figma is like a design development type thing, and so they just actually had to walk back through AI, which is kind of a bummer. But, uh, so you don't want to just start building the website, you want to like wireframe it and say, like, I want it to do these things. This is what we're trying to rank for. Here's what our h tags would be, you know. Here's our backlink structure. Here, with link sculpting, is another one where it's like, we're going to link out to these pages. Um, this is what we want the user to do, and so usually have like one unique call to action. We really just have like one unique call to action, and then, after they've given us two questions and we shunt them, it's like oh, you're looking for a lawyer, you know, talk to me. Oh, you're looking for a license, fill this out. And I have to tell you, 90% of the time we don't follow up with you.
Speaker 2:The reason why I asked is because I thought it was one of those things where I know we're trying to get people to. People are interested in business that follow us and listen to us talk as we get our ball rolling. I got some people on the side. I won't get you involved until if it involves 100K or more. I'm going to be like, oh, now we got real opportunity. That's the kind of shit that we're involved in. You don't get that way until we got lucky with the license. What is it 7% chance we had?
Speaker 1:We're still creating something, but the fact is we have this media outlet, we have our legacy repututations and now we're gonna have a fucking store and that's gonna be the nice expand upon you know, the weird thing though, because it's the industry is like we can't advertise the weed brand, and so everybody's, they got this idea for a weed brand and uh, like, very often and you know I'm not on the clock for this one but I would consult and be like, hey, I don't care about your weed brand.
Speaker 1:Well, because you're not going to be able to advertise it, it's not going to be able to scale, you're not going to be able to build it, and I usually get upset because there's a lot of ego in the industry, like way too much. I'm thinking about getting into the solar industry after we get the cash flows from the dispensing, and diversify into alternative energy, simply because, like there, it's also highly regulated in the sense that you need real estate, you need zoning, you need to get a license. Very often you can't just start a utility company, but the total addressable market size is huge. Everybody uses power, as opposed to, like, one in five people. And then, uh, you know, fuck the oil industry.
Speaker 2:well, you, I mean you're looking at futures of like the, the money I I would hope I hope to do. I mean, no matter what that business level. You're going to deal with ego. I think in the cannabis we're dealing with people who you know, know the legacy everybody calls themselves I see, fucking like 30 year olds call themselves legacy brand you trapped, you did some illegal shit, you got away with it. That's the whole point. Right, you make some money and then you reallocate. But the thing about trapping and that's what frustrates me about like, say, like the, the, the rap music and shit is it's not sustainable, it's not going to be get a house and be fucking left alone. You raise eyebrows and people investigate. There's got to be paperwork involved. Unfortunately, there's a weird taboo, but anyways, we're not going to get to that level. We got more stories because Biden touts work to address failed approach to marijuana Civil Rights Act proclamation. Did you see that?
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, this came out for. His July 4th Once again touted his administration approach to as his 60th anniversary of the Civil Rights Act and he signed a proclamation. He's used executive clemency more than any recent president at this point in my presidency. Man, that is a political statement as shit. In pursuance of justice and fairness in the president's defense, he has done more. Like everybody's saying we have to go and we have a little bumper, we'll hit here soon. You have to go and we have a little little bumper, we'll hit here soon. Uh, you have to go and you have to get your message into the dea because the public comment period is three weeks left. Two weeks, two weeks spacing on it. They got two more weeks left for the public comment period and there is something that we could. We could try to run right now, and we'll run this, and I'm not sure how this is going to work, though. I think this is going to work terribly.
Speaker 3:I'm Joe Parsons with the Virginia Cannabis Connection and Pro Cannabis Media's we Talk News. I'd like to give a special shout out to Cannabis Legalization News', tom the cannabis lawyer and Miggy420. We'd all like for you to know that there's only 15 days left in the DEA 60-day public comment period. That's right On July 22nd your time will be completely over, so if you haven't already done so, please head on out to wwwregulationsgov and make your voices known. This is a once-in-a-lifetime monumental opportunity. Do you want to move from Schedule 1 to Schedule 3? You think it should be descheduled, like I do, or do you just want it left on schedule one? Whatever you decide, now is the time to make your voices known. You can even be a nominous. So make it happen. Everybody. Let's get together and take advantage of this once in a lifetime monumental opportunity. As always, I'm Joe Parsons from the Virginia Cannabis Connection and Pro Cannabis Media's we Talk News. Until next time, stay lifted.
Speaker 1:Nice See if you guys are watching and you're a member of the show or, like you know, you have something, give us a clip. Keep it less than a minute and we'll try to work that into the show, into the show. The thing is I hear this all the time where you should tell Biden to de-schedule, that's fine, but it's kind of like telling somebody who doesn't have a left hand that boy, you should have a left hand, because he can't, and so that's the thing that I almost think I'm going to have to do like a video about this. Like he can't do that. I don't care if you call him Trump, I don't care if you call him Biden, I don't care if you just so long as you call him the president, because that's who he is. He can't because of the way the law is written, and it's great that you're telling him to do something he can't do. Well, the king can break it up, can't he no?
Speaker 1:Does the?
Speaker 2:king break up the organization, because isn't that the whole?
Speaker 1:Does he have immunity, or at least presumptive immunity, to start randomly enforcing the laws Just like willy-nilly where he's like hey, I realize the law says I can't do that, fuck the law.
Speaker 2:To get rid of the Schedule F federal employees.
Speaker 1:Right If you get rid of people who are career doctors, career educators, educators, career law enforcement who's going to be advising us as we try to maintain our lead in the world? We're going to go fire all our experts that's why they have that job.
Speaker 2:Well, and that's kind of like I think at one time, you know, america found itself in many moments where, like there was, oh shit, hit the fan for the people take care of things, and that's what I think is best right now. In this past four years, I have seen better infrastructure, better uh things being caught and more civil right like, uh, the fact that the democrats can argue and be like, ah, we want him to step down, but yet they're having that conversation right, the republicans are like this weird cult thing going on. You know worship, worshipping this guy who was known. Have you seen the Epstein files come out? That came out in Florida?
Speaker 1:No, it's disgusting. That's the shit that was involved. That's one of the reasons I wouldn't like I'm busy, I'm a family guy, and then if I saw that headline, I'd be like I'm going to go read about artificial intelligence instead.
Speaker 2:Dude the fact that these people are saying like, oh, I'd be like I'm going to go read about artificial intelligence instead. Dude the fact that these people are saying like, oh, I'm going to vote for the felon, but the felon was also at my age one of these testimonies a child rapist.
Speaker 1:Just that's it. Like you know, hey, man, another six years you could bang Stormy Daniels and have like while your wife is pregnant with Barron Trump, because think he was about 59-ish somewhere in there. Right now he's 78. His kid's 18. You do the math. I'm not going to do it.
Speaker 2:Right, but this is who people want to represent them. This is who people want to say this is America.
Speaker 1:False.
Speaker 2:False. I'm just saying, man, I don't know what this whole other America's failing thing? Shit's always been hard, prices always go up. It has nothing to do with. Presidents can control a little bit, but the infrastructure part right.
Speaker 1:Do you know what the interest rate was when Reagan was president? The mortgage interest rate? It was double digits. Inflation has been real before.
Speaker 1:But then it's one of these things where if you don't make something, a catastrophe or a calamity and Donald Trump uses this all the fucking time If you don't make something, a catastrophe or calamity, the worst you're losing it. You're just a huge disgrace like this. You botched it and it cannot be repaired. Like, if you don't do that kind of stuff, people won't act and so it is just a sales hucksters, bullshit people. That's why he's trying to make these bombastic claims. He's telling you these things to promote your actions and to exploit your emotions.
Speaker 1:But then, if you actually look at data which you don't want to look at, for some reason, it just doesn't bear out. If you look at data over the past hundred years, how things are now relative to any time in the past, you're great. This is the best time to ever be an American. This is the best time to be graduating from college. You have full employment. You have a stock market at a record, you have somebody who cares if you have health care. I mean Jesus, fucking Christ, who cares if you have health care. I mean, jesus, fucking christ, you have somebody who cares if you can uh get solar panels on your house so that you can provide for power for decades for that house and again, this is a uh, this, this, this thing that's being cared for is is universal.
Speaker 2:It's not a uh, just white, black, you know, elitist type thing. Right, america is uh, uh, everybody that, just you know, fucking two guys in a podcast, man, like like they showed up, they, they try and get a message across, but overall, how things what I've seen in my, in my you know like, from not caring about politics when I was young, I, I went through the whiskey trials. I'm like why, why is my regular? So? At the time, long time ago, kids, you had no options but to watch tv like there was three channels and then there was 80 channels, and now there's infinity channels but again, uh.
Speaker 2:So like, imagine just taking over the internet with one trial about a blowjob. And then you're just like why, why, why am I watching this or why do I have to care?
Speaker 1:Right, one child. It just seems so quaint. Now, when you look back at the 90s history, you're like we were so innocent and charming and so cute. There was no choices. There was no choices. I don't think that pattern is going to not interact with the humans or the intelligence patterns that we are, because people will stop identifying as human by the time I'm 60. Mark my words by the time I'm 60, people will stop identifying and being human because they're already doing it for their own genders. Don't go woke on me, man. I'm not going woke Cynical isn't woke.
Speaker 1:I'm going cynical isn't woke, I'm going cynical, you know, in the sense that I think that you know people will just start replacing themselves as the Internet and technology continues to just bathe us in everything that we need, which is going to be weird.
Speaker 2:We call it echo chambers. You know that's a thing. But we have a new article on social workers who push Biden to fully decriminalize marijuana under federal law, not just reschedule it. This is kind of a no shit article. Everybody agrees we should deschedule it, Not just reschedule it, but reschedule.
Speaker 1:Congress needs to get off their duff and go vote on it. And the problem is they don't know what the fuck they're voting on. And so you have Biden telling his own administration we'll make a fucking rule. Because then, once you have a rule, it's basically like law. Congress can then take that rule, which is already there, and codify it and say it's kind of one of these brinksmanship bluffing where it's like, well, I don't want to do it. The FDA, they didn't write any fucking rules. Of course they're understaffed.
Speaker 2:I mean there's protections, osha before child labor laws. There's ways to do things where, as a whole, if we see something egregious, but how long has it gotten to take to this point of decriminalization? How long has it taken to get to this point where the fucking president is putting it on his platform? It was so taboo and scary. I mean, we came that close with Carter but because he's dropped what we had on the show.
Speaker 1:The people weren't ready. I don't think. I think it was easier to brainwash. You have to. I mean like, oh, I don't know, like they didn't have memes 50 years ago. Now you can brainwash with memes.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, I think there's always been a portion of stupid, no matter what's out there, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that portion is steady, but this is the smartest we've ever been as a species, like today. Portion of stupid, no matter what's out there, right? Yeah, I think that portion is steady, but this is the smartest we've ever been as a species, like today until tomorrow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a good point too, but we're also smarter at manipulating, right like cambridge analytica, exactly well like or donald trump telling you, like this guy's ruining our country, It'll be chaos.
Speaker 1:We won't have a country Like when somebody tells you that you won't have what you had. He's trying to manipulate and scare you.
Speaker 2:You know the younger me who listened to Rage Against the Machine, I never felt that America was part of me, even when I joined the Navy. I joined because I needed a fucking job. But I think youth people don't think most of the time like America, right, like just like. People want to think like, oh, people are police officers because they love law, or they joined the military because they love America. No, they do it because they need a job. Or some do it because they love America, you know, some do it because yes, or like families again also.
Speaker 1:Then like you know, some do it because yes, or like families again also. Then, like you know, people like they learn to hunt from their parents. Right yeah, they learn the military from their parents. I learned the law of practice from my parents, you know, and so you see, generationally, fuck man. That's why people used to have the name Cooper, or like Miller it was a barrel maker or somebody who does flour, you know.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I'm just uh, just saying like as uh as people, americans, I think, the smart ones. Internet has put this little compass of like knowledge where a lot of think they're really smart just because they go up and operate a smartphone. But do you understand how that fucking thing works, you know? I mean like no, but the ones that do, I hope are the ones that do make a difference. But sometimes it does feel like the other ones outnumber us, right, the dum-dums. But it's weird where we all do our own dumb shit. Smart people do dumb shit, but the smart thing to do would be to vote blue right now to see this real change that's going to happen. I mean, this is the closest we've gotten in my lifetime, dude, besides when I was what six during the Carter administration.
Speaker 1:Well, he didn't do all this stuff and so, like Jimmy Carter, didn't use his powers, like Biden used his powers to issue a rescheduling, and so, this is the furthest.
Speaker 1:it's ever gone the public sentiment was a little bit more there 50 years ago before it rolled back, and that's why I still think it was easier to keep alive 50 years ago, because the evidence trail was worse than it is now. The evidence trail now is amazing. Everything's out there. We are all data objects, gigabytes or terabytes. Big Back in the day. I'm in from Newark. How's it going here in Albuquerque?
Speaker 2:I think the data too kind of has been there even back then, because we've gone through the LaGuardia report, we've gone through other freaking reports that say, yeah, no, it shouldn't be. Laguardia is from like 1930s, right Twenties.
Speaker 1:So, guardians, look with the LaGuardia report. Oh, laguardia report came out in the forties. Mayor LaGuardia was a mayor of New York in the forties and so he he didn't believe in, like their reports about the dangers of marijuana. Granted, new York has been a multicultural place for a while. It's a major urban center. He put that stuff out and they just suppressed it.
Speaker 2:The data's always been there, but we now have another 50 years of data on top of the time when we had the first chance. It really needs to go forward, but the other side is gonna fuck it up yeah, well, uh, let's not be dogmatic, let's be americans and that's the more important thing.
Speaker 1:Uh, you can hope right, but yeah, it's, and then it was just so they buried. The la guardia report has an airport named after him. He was such a mayor of New York and they were also building airports at the time. But then you go back to that, even in the congressional record our first congressional records of the legalization at the federal level of this plant, which is great. We have another great story about carbon-friendly cannabis farming, but this one is really interesting when you look at, like, the historical context of it.
Speaker 1:So you go back to our original congressional records of whether or not we should ban it in 1937, in the thirties, like the tax stamp act, shit, like it's 90 years old. And you have the doctor and lawyer that's why he's the general counsel of the American medical association coming to Congress Like one of those that they have hearings before a bill gets out of committee and all that kind of shit. So he's at one of those hearings trying to tell the Democrats who legalized it, who banned it the first time. So like the Democrats have blood on their hands. However, he tells them that they don't know of anything like this. We call it cannabis. When you call it marijuana, you're creating confusion and the doctors aren't really sure what you're talking about until it's not in the news story that you're using as evidence. Mr Anslinger, he's like hey, these news stories were published in Hearst Publications, but still.
Speaker 2:That's like the 1930 Fox News.
Speaker 1:But that's where it came from. Our oldest congressional record is news stories a doctor from the American Medical Association, who's also a lawyer, being told to shut up and get out of the way. And then, when you go to the day they voted on it and get out of the way. And then, when you go to the day they voted on it, a Republican now lied to Congress about what the AMA thought about the bill, Because the Republicans still were fairly conservative, even like 90 years ago, and so they caucused with the Republicans. What does the AMA think about this bill? Oh, they support it 100%. The AMA didn't support the bill at all.
Speaker 2:Right, this bill. Oh, they supported 100. They didn't support the bill at all. Right, no, again, this is manipulation over the legislation of this fucking plant. Like, like we're at the point now. You would hope the toothpaste is out too, but it only is in my state, in your state, right, uh, california, but you know, but if we did a historical I mean, come on, hollywood, do a historical fiction about the cannabis laws, what the fuck?
Speaker 1:that would be hilarious and like people would watch that and it might actually finally get things legalized. Because the story of it is just bananas and you read it and you go like, okay, and then what do you do now? You require them to like grow it like it's plutonium or something in some super advanced vertical farm indoors. Meanwhile, you have headlines like this one Growing weed outdoors can be 50 times less carbon emitting than indoor cultivation. New ag study finds that came out on Independence Day.
Speaker 2:That's kind of already been known. I mean indoor outdoor growing of any plant right Like sun is outside. That's kind of already been known. I mean indoor outdoor growing of any plant right like, uh, sun is outside. I mean, you're not, you know. You know one, I had to do something, the other one I didn't. What's your uh apples and oranges here, buddy?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, well, we've regulated it in such a way, like we. One of the reasons why they have a limited market in Illinois or other states where it's a limited market, it's not an open market is you do not have a right to this license, it is a privilege. And because it's a privilege, it's controlled by the state. And then, not only that, they will layer on compliance regulation on you and taxes so that you are compliant with the privilege that is the conducting of the business, on you and taxes, so that you are compliant with the privilege that is the conducting of the business. And so they limit the market so that they pad our cash flows to a certain extent because there's only so many places to go. But they also change the rules.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that kind of fear mongering article, a headline type shit, is the kind of shit that based their policy, bad policy, off of right Cause you got an indoor plant, of course it's going to have real. Unfortunately, that is the Department of Agriculture that did the study right, so I would hope they do better studies, like real studies about like McGill University in Canada and University of Michigan Ann Arbor Okay.
Speaker 2:So a joint study of two universities going oh look, you grow weed inside. You've got to maintain the airflow, you've got to use the air conditioner. You know, I mean I'm just, I didn't read the article. I'm just shooting off the head like, oh no, it's good.
Speaker 1:It takes a lot less from the environment and sun. Grown is great. It doesn't. You have to be careful. You have to watch the plant when it's outside. Grown is great. You have to be careful. You have to watch the plant when it's outside. You have to have the right types of planting patterns. Your IPM is important. When you're outside it's a little bit more difficult because you have a lot more variables that can go wrong. You haven't walled off the plants and put them in an underground bunker or something where you're controlling everything and playing complete god Right.
Speaker 2:I learned a new thing today, so I used to. You know I have an obsession with the plant. I mean so do you? So there's 200.
Speaker 1:Everybody in the industry, everybody that likes the plant, you have to like it, like that's the thing, otherwise you wouldn't have done it. You would have been like oh, I'm just going to be doing that, I'm going to go to see a church.
Speaker 2:But like here in Washington State, I just learned something, dude. So this house I got it says small batch indoor and I was like what's small batch mean? What's your?
Speaker 1:definition of small batch 5,000 square feet or less of canopy space.
Speaker 2:And in the chat, what's your definition of small batch? Because this is to me Alvo, explained by the Botanist, it's like still 1,200 plants.
Speaker 1:I don't know 72 plants. How about that? You're going to do clones. You're going to have a mother. You're going to have clones. You're going to have phenos. You're going to have something that you're going to take into production 72 plants.
Speaker 2:How about that? You're looking at plant, uh, uh numbers, right, really, where this comes into play, how it explained to me, is it's about uh care, it's like they're not going to let it go to larger plant. Like big size, like I thought, like huge colas. You know, every time I see those I get excited.
Speaker 1:Well, it's genetics or genetics, and so like you can't always have the same morphology of the colas.
Speaker 2:But these are nice little, decent-sized nugs, not huge cola nugs, but this is a beautiful small batch. I just learned you never know everything as this rule becomes more. People in Kentucky don't have my experience, tennessee, you know. Even our producer Will when we were in college. At times.
Speaker 1:Whiskey and wine and even beer. It's so homogenized and like edibles to certain vapes. That's the problem that I got Like it's not. I mean like wine isn't. Wine's not homogenized, the blends are. And then scotch isn't homogenized. They do single malt scotch. They'll do particular harvest years and types of where it's grown, what it is. But then what a small batch is? That's interesting. Chad said it was 100 plants, but why don't we look at a batch of something? Here we go.
Speaker 2:T-H C C, t-t-h-c-c-c, t-t-h-c-c-c.
Speaker 1:This one's a long one. How is it? Why don't you give us some hints about it?
Speaker 2:Well, I lost the tab, but the name that's what I was thinking about is it's something like a barbecue, maybe, barbecue maybe you know, at a party.
Speaker 1:Okay, uh, survey says indica dominant or sativa dominant. Uh, I'm, I'm pretty sure, our crack audience of people that can look at weed and spot it and go. Yeah, there we go, dude high at nine is saying 20 lights or below is a small batch. Now we have to standardize a term called light. Chad was saying 100 plants.
Speaker 2:How many clones can you get off a mom? I don't even know. What do you think about a small batch beer or a small batch wine? Is that something? Just made that one time I've been to breweries where it's made in this one oak barrel that was soaked in whatever.
Speaker 1:Whatever, you know it is not, it's not and that's uh, but it is, it's uh, I guess, a good guess. You know it's another interesting one. This one is an indica dominant by canerado I'm assuming that's a play of cannabis in Colorado and cultivated by Team Elite Genetics, and it's a cross between GMO and Sunset Sherbert. So yeah, you have a head of Indica Dominant, so like a permanent marker kind of display. That's a popular-looking strain these days. They like the darks, that dark bract hue in there where it's like almost purple but then icy, and then you have a lot of hairs. Who is they, tom? They are the people that you can refer to to make it sound like other people approve, like Donald Trump would also use all the time. A lot of people are saying this you know, I hear a lot of that where you refer to an unspecified horde. Kramer is telling us a mom can populate 150 to 400 clones. That's what I would call a small batch. If you have maybe one mom that you're going to put into production.
Speaker 3:I don't know how that works.
Speaker 1:I don't farm, I just want to retail.
Speaker 2:I just want to buy. I don't want to grow, I don't want to. I mean, I don't want to grow, I don't want to make my fucking hamburgers, but anyways, that's a pretty little nugget, though I like the dark purple.
Speaker 1:It is a good one, yep, and so this one's tough, and so I guess we just tell them to do it.
Speaker 2:Styrofoam cup that's right, mary jane styrofoam cup.
Speaker 1:Stress, pain, depression, flavors like garlic cheese and citrus. Caryophylline dominant, expensive, 10 to 15 bucks a gram. Second place in the 2022 socal high times cup.
Speaker 2:So yeah, that is a unique exotic the nice thing about when we get more into the industry is explaining what determines the price of plant. We've all accepted $10 to be for a gram. But what does it take? The soil, the energy, the labor, that's the other part. Everybody fucking hates dealing with labor, but that's all part of the package. That's why everybody thinks like oh man, I can just be my own grower and, you know, sell some pounds, or here's my brand.
Speaker 1:I think we might use the growers. So let's say we break even on the retail side and we're looking for a tax offset. That's when you invest in growers. But I'd still prefer like I would make models there would also be a flow chart and a small slide deck presentation where I would argue the investment case for the solar farm over the grow, because then we can at least call the power back to the grow.
Speaker 2:That's pretty neat. I want to get to the testing part, but we have some.
Speaker 1:I don't know the business model on that. I'll tell you and I'll work on the models and Slobodan, and I can, he's really good. Yeah, I got it figured.
Speaker 2:But the Sanchez Marijuana Opposition Campaign in Florida raises just $10K as the Pro-Legalization Committee breaks it into millions $10,000 to not legalize it in Florida.
Speaker 1:That's why he said you know what? I'm going to veto this hemp bill, because he wanted you working against him in the streets. Unfortunately, the polls that we've seen indicate that it is going to beat the 60 percent plus one threshold handily. It's already polling at 64 percent, despite what the mayor and then. So, like everybody who opposes cannabis legalization, usually one of the things they do is justify why they oppose it. It's like we can't have that, yeah.
Speaker 2:But you can smell the freedom in Florida, with women's rights and marijuana on the ticket.
Speaker 1:But that's what they don't want. The smell they hate the smell of weed. Smell man, because I get Google alerts for cannabis legalization news. I get a cannabis legalization news Google alert. I did it for the podcast and you can't believe how many times the smell of weed comes up in an op-ed or as something that the administration, some type of elected official, uses as the reason to not vote for it.
Speaker 2:I wonder what the numbers are. You know that'd be curious for like data set Cause you know that's going to definitely be something mentioned in the reschedule comments what you should do everybody.
Speaker 1:Yeah, two more weeks. You can tell them to de-schedule and then reference that new case. It says you have immunity. Fuck the law.
Speaker 2:Just do it because you're the president.
Speaker 1:If you read the reschedule If you read the Article 2 of the Constitution, the executive is vested in that branch and so his power is to execute the laws. He can read it and say fuck that. I'm saying it this way.
Speaker 2:Well, and the whole reason why the king can't make the law is because the next king can overwrite. Right, that's going to be the but they can't be prosecuted for it.
Speaker 1:So it'll be like king-clown after next king-clown.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying, does he?
Speaker 1:have to not respect whatever amendment. It was after FDR where they said you're not allowed to be president just for life.
Speaker 2:Well, again, biden made a declaration and asked the administration. Right, he didn't, he couldn't direct them and they did it because there are people behind the DEA and FDA and all the other ABCs that really are humans and Americans and going well, fuck, maybe we, we can do something right here, maybe we can put it forward. You know everybody putting eyeballs on that. What's the?
Speaker 2:the head of the DA, hilligram, the Ann, whatever her name is I mean your name's going to go down in the history, like if you help guide something right, like that's my. The whole behind my advocacy has always been like when people are arrested, harassed or whatever, first you shame the fucking cops like those. Shame on you for coming, like you couldn't just knock on my door and ask me what I mean. You know, guns drawn, people get shot these are the horrors of prohibition. And then on the other side, look at there.
Speaker 1:Sometimes they'll complain that crime's up, which is a lie. Crime is at one of its lowest rates in history, and there was a couple of spikes. The first one was during alcohol prohibition in the 20th century. Surprise, surprise, alcohol prohibition caused an uptick of crime. And then you know what the next one is the fucking drug war. Surprise, surprise, the drug war caused an uptick of crime. There was a slight recitative or, like you know, a retracement of crime rates during the pandemic, but everybody was very stressed. I mean, think about it Like we were all told to shelter in place and nobody can do anything, and that's also come back down, and so it was like a blip. But when they say that it's lawlessness or these things are terrible, that's just a lie. This is some of the best it's been. And then, if we continue on this path, where everybody has a job, the country is growing, people want to come here. We're the leader of the world in technology and freedom. Yeah, granted, now we're a monarchy again.
Speaker 2:It's weird yeah, but the crime thing though, like, like, I think it's a great point when you say both uh, prohibition and war on drugs. But part of that also is when you make something criminalized, you're gonna enable bad actors go woo, woo-ha, I got one.
Speaker 1:Yeah you, 16-year-old kid, so you license the gambling activities. In a desert called Vegas, do you? So you license the gambling activities? Or, oh, so you license the cannabis activities. Or so you license these types of things. Alcohol so you license that. I saw a liquor license recently and it says you know from the state, you know there's ways to regulate this. They're just making it, they're politicizing it. They know how to do it. They just don't want to say that they're going to do it because they want to politicize it.
Speaker 2:I think it's always been politicized. But now it's at the point now where the rescheduled thing I mean this is how you make shit happen Like even though Joe seems like feckled most parts of times, right Days of confused he's 81 years old. I'm not in my youth, no more Like getting up and down is a motherfucker, but I can still work as hard, if not harder, than someone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but he's got a team and the other guy's got Project 2025 and no team, because anybody ever's worked with him is like fuck this guy.
Speaker 2:Well, again, character right. Who do I want to represent America? Someone who really goes to his fucking dead kid's fucking cemetery once a week and believes in some magic Jesus who actually believes. The other guy is just somebody who's been scamming and gaslighting. Really that's professionally, not real business man. I mean, I wish my daddy would leave me five billion dollars to lose. That'd be hilarious.
Speaker 1:That'd be cool, hey. But we got some good news out of Nebraska, which is something that you never hear when you turn into cannabis legalization news. Good news out of Nebraska. Everybody Just been handed an urgent news bulletin out of Nebraska. Okay, who's fucking with me? But Nebraska activists have turned in enough signatures to put medical marijuana legalization on the ballot in November according to Marijuana Moment, on July the 4th. And they have turned in how many? 114,000 signatures? Only 87,000 of them need to be valid, by the way.
Speaker 2:Nice, yes, so it's four, I four, I think, total. I don't know what the other three were, but I saw an article that said four states coming up this year. Well, florida, so nebraska, florida, that will make how many states recreational uh, that would make.
Speaker 1:This is medical. Nebraska is one of the holdouts.
Speaker 1:This will be, 39, 39 and feeling fine. You know what I'm saying, but, uh, the support behind our movement over the past couple of years has helped keep up the fight for thousands of Nebraskans seeking the medical cannabis can bring them, said NMM. So that is Nebraska Medical Marijuana. Nebraska hands for medical marijuana and they are tickled to be getting this on the ballot. There's a picture of them. Let's show the good people that are hustling so very, very hard to win it in Nebraska, because if you win it in Nebraska, fuck dude, like legalization.
Speaker 2:Isn't that like a quarter of the population right there? I'm not sure Nebraska's small I drove through it. A beautiful country, you know what I mean. It's a gorgeous place. Hopefully they get it going. It's a farm country. It's very conservative.
Speaker 1:They do the presidential race a little different. They actually give out their electoral votes based on the congressional districts or something, and so they've they're bifurcated. Very few states do it this way, as they want a real representative democracy. So I think it's just like maine and um nebraska, and so like one area in nebraska is actually liberal and would vote for biden, and then there's like two other areas in Nebraska that won't. It's very interesting.
Speaker 2:It's interesting. I mean, and again, it's at the point where it's weird, where people are party over country because, honestly, dude the MAGA's cuckoo.
Speaker 1:Oh, come on. If MAGA was cuckoo, then why, according to Marijuana Business Daily on July 5th? Why, for the third straight year, a proposal to legalize medical cannabis has failed in the North Carolina legislature? Why? Is that what.
Speaker 3:What.
Speaker 1:So like a Republican opposition in their majority-controlled legislature has stymied the legalization effort in North Carolina, according to the Asheville Citizen Times.
Speaker 2:Check your people. Republicans, this is what you get.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but then that's where all the THC AMs coming from. So it's fine. It's fine, they don't know what you're doing.
Speaker 2:Well and again this is people manipulating. To me, the frustrating part is it's a small faction of people who have the power and are in charge, the ones who are pushing large weight. In a sense they're heavy-ass drug dealers, but it's hemp. That's a real mafia almost now. The legal mafia.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's the legal mafia where you're allowed to sell interstate, not pay taxes or get a license.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're a whole state of it. Of course you want to protect your fucking tax relief.
Speaker 1:It's a $28 billion industry Damn, of course they want it. I mean, that's why, in my comment to the rule making, I said look, you gotta, you gotta tie this all in. These are loose ends. You need to tie the plant together and start at hemp and then have your schedule three, weed and like, make it clear so that they can get their license too, and and then it's. It's. If you're growing hemp because, like I'm, that that's a really cool business idea as well, especially for the carry forward losses and the depreciations you can have a hemp farm that you row crop, because that is the most carbon negative plant that you can plant.
Speaker 1:Better than bamboo, but you know what? You're growing it for. You're growing it for rope. You're growing it for industrial building materials. You're growing it like it's a tree. You want to be harvesting 15-foot trees. You ain't growing it for the flowers. It's not a horticultural crop.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a pro crop.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm curious too. I wish you know this is part of the loss that we get as Americans when it comes to quality of weed. California, the legacy, humble history of weed when people think about good weed. But I can bet you if these farm states were allowed to just grow cannabis and get around it, basically these old fuckers would have some really good weed, but keep shooting themselves in the foot, I know.
Speaker 1:I know, I know there was. Well, what should we do? Should we do some celebrity news or some stupid?
Speaker 2:news We'll get the lawsuit news. That's some, I thought we already did the lawsuit, not this one or the Starbucks. Not this one or the Starbucks.
Speaker 1:Ah yes, that's an interesting news. Let's do a Starbucks news story.
Speaker 2:Should I? I wasn't expecting it.
Speaker 1:Sure Wow Wait.
Speaker 2:Wait, do you?
Speaker 1:want to smoke. Okay, so Starbucks was sued for Star Buds flowers? Yes, and this was out of TMZ, and so TMZ was reporting this week that Starbucks sued Star Buds flowers copied our logo. What do you think about that?
Speaker 2:Does that one on?
Speaker 1:the left look like the one on the right.
Speaker 2:You're close dude. I would never guess that who are they? Trying to be like.
Speaker 1:No, who are they trying to be like? I'm not sure. Star Buds, flowers, starbucks Star Buds? Yeah, you might have a lawsuit on your hands there, buddy.
Speaker 2:Well, and as we get closer to legalization on a federal level, this is the kind of shit you got to think about. You know it's not parody right. Some people get away with it. Illegal markets, illicit, traditional, whatever you want to call it, always will get away with it, because if you're willing to put your, you know cross a certain line.
Speaker 1:You're going to not care, but you're talking about not caring. This is an illegal shop, and so let's go to the other picture that we have here. There you go. This is out of New York. This is one of those weed trucks. You know, the unlicensed weed trucks.
Speaker 2:So it is unlicensed. They found, they found an owner. You know that's that's crazy, that you know you put your ass on the line there, buddy, Like that's not, you're not going to win. And then how are they going to? What do you call it damages, right? Whatever case, you want, whatever's awarded, don't do that shit.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure how New York is enforcing those. I know that legalization is not complete legalization and so if they were marijuana trafficking, that's still a crime in Illinois. I'm not sure how they've handled it in New York. I would ask Jeff.
Speaker 2:Well, that's a different thing, right? If the as far as the the owner of that truck, it would be like this is a lawsuit on trademark. So they're going to go after you personally versus the state going after you for doing your business, which you know. If there was a good pathway, you know it'd be nice. You know I don't understand why they don't allow people who already have some of those brick and mortars. You know, have you seen that raid that happened for that vape shop where the guy went in all like you guys sell vapes, giddles, you got that, zaza, and it's just some of the worst fucking pretend cop shit. But they're raiding people and messing up with their inventory. It's not good, but I wish they would just give them a path instead of harassment.
Speaker 1:Well, again, it's a privilege conferred by, but it's a privilege conferred by.
Speaker 2:But it's all privilege. Any store, any business you have is a privilege in this country for the most part.
Speaker 1:No, no, roofing company like my law company, that's a privilege, you know my. But then if you have a lemonade stand and a privilege, and so there's it's differences, you know that that there's a difference between a privilege and a privilege, and so there's it's differences. You know that that there's a difference between a privilege and a right, and rights are are not treated the exact same under the law as privileges, and a lot of the cannabis industry is considered a privilege, not a right. But then some States, like in the open market States, there are more considered a right than a privilege.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, there's ways to do things like New Mexico when you give your average citizen a chance and say here's a pathway, here's an entry fee. That's the social equity in the end, that's the fairness to being a part of the game if you really do want to be in the we business right.
Speaker 1:Then you really you got to come down to the compliance costs, then yeah, and so you can't make it cost five hundred thousand dollars a year in security upkeep well, it's not fair right now.
Speaker 2:Right, kentucky, what fifty thousand just in the bank, and then?
Speaker 1:you're not for a dispensary, that's just for the smallest grow, uh, and so for a dispensary you need 150 large in the bank. Yeah, not fair. None of this is fair. It's medical, it's privilege.
Speaker 3:Well.
Speaker 2:But to have that reschedule? It's just not fair. Privilege right, it's just not fair.
Speaker 1:Fair has nothing to do with this law.
Speaker 2:None of it. Yeah, but you know who's back in the game Is Whoopi Goldberg. It's been an hour and seven weeks, Whoopi Goldberg Not unless you shit. It's been an hour and seven weeks. We still got people.
Speaker 1:Whoopi Goldberg is launching a brand Because she looked into her audience face and said Nobody asked me to do this, but I'm getting into the weed game. And the veteran star re-intervigorated Her marijuana interests After parting ways with former business partner who warned her against this and teaming up with close family members who wanted her money under the name hoop fam umbrella. Oh, this poor e got. I bet we're gonna have uh another follow-up story on this in approximately 18 months where whoopi's getting out of it I, I just, I'm not a fan of celebrity.
Speaker 2:We, I mean, I don't care like about these articles. You know, like, like, uh, it's her second time in. I think the first time was with women products. The problem is, I think these are just investment stage people. It's like they're just putting their name on some shit and not going to the farm. That's the heart and soul of this product and this industry. I think that's where Mad Men slept. None of these people were actually involved I don't think you know.
Speaker 2:I mean like, I know she loves, I know she consumes it, but it's not like it's her farm that she went to and said we're going to use this soil, I want these, uh, whatever, whatever's and uh, this is the experience we're going to have you know, I don't know, but uh, we got a, we got a stock story.
Speaker 1:Let's do a stock story and this might be another one of my little silly jaunts for the law firm in 2025.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:Seven cannabis stocks to sell before they crash and burn in July. Hey, do you own cannabis stocks? You shouldn't, so let's see which ones you should sell. Number one Aurora Cannabis. I am not an owner. I just think that if you pull up its financials, they are abysmal and I would not recommend you owning it. Nvidia, compare NVIDIA's financials to Aurora Cannabis' financials and then argue with me. Air Wellness Doubled in price over the past year. Pretty sweet. Investor Place is saying you should take profits, not me. I'm not giving you financial advice or legal advice, by the way. And then, finally, cannabis Company Holdings, cbstf, and CBSTF is not doing well. Let me see if I can get their chart. Yes, I can. If your stock chart looks like this, you are not doing well.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:I hope one day to show a stock chart from our company to you and be like look, I'm sorry, my head wasn't at the game, and then also blame the regulators. Be like it's not my fault, it was the regulators. Man, it wasn't me, I was making all the right moves, right, right moves. And I'll just hire yes people. They're like yep, that's right, you know you're making the right moves oh no, we're gonna do that, dude.
Speaker 2:I mean that's the day we're gonna, we're gonna get companies to fail them, we're gonna crush them. I mean let's not do that. Let's please not do that. No, that's a problem with this whole like. I know, like people who watch us, uh, are investors right? People like in the dell report. You know these guys are putting, but I wonder how much and at what point do you? Um, it's, it's not still sustainable, like if I were to put 100k into aurora or whoever the case is. I'm watching that bitch like intently, because how long for it to even double or get any interest. It takes a long time. Only time that they do any profit is when, say, a new story like rescheduling comes out and then people throw money at them like the strippers and then they just walk away with that bag.
Speaker 1:They go up 30% in two weeks and people forget yeah and that's the point, because most of the people that are buying stocks are gambling. The stock market is gambling 100%.
Speaker 2:I mean, the rules are always changing, especially with cannabis. None of these companies With us. I don't know if you Googled. I Googled myself. I Googled Miggy420, and I saw one of the things SEO purposes yeah, SEO shit. Curious what pops. One of the things that's right now associated with me is investors, and I think mostly because of license Right, because I do have intent to be part of something where we're going to be managers of money, essentially, and then we got to find the ones that are going to be managing the business that we run, right, like the thing that we're going to be a part of.
Speaker 1:It's all building a team. We got to get all the right seats on the bus. Exactly the team.
Speaker 1:Yep, we got to get all the right seats on the bus is that a little business, adage like it, but yeah no, I go for it, sorry, all right if you're, if you're good, I'm just going to promote something and then we can wrap up canvas legalization news for the week, do it? Our social equity webinar is going to be on wednesday. This is something that, if your social equity, you may have seen before, but if you're not, you might not have, uh, I, and so I'm going to start doing these webinars on a fairly regular basis. There's really not a good okay, uh, anyway, I wanted to. I need to have to because, like, I was planning on doing it on stream yard and I used to have different things set up for webinars. Because you can and I would boss this all around and so will you might have to help me get ready for the webinar on Wednesday so that it'll present.
Speaker 1:Well, this is the slide deck for it. But, yeah, we go over. It's like we represent a lot of social equity applicants and we have a unique and soon-to-be patent-pending method to do it, which, if I do this right, this will be like the written into the laws, and so we're going to have a lobbying wing that'll be asking people to write this methodology into the laws as they go from state to state, because there is an issue with social equity licensing, especially with the lotteries. That happens.
Speaker 2:I want to record a little reel for you. I haven't done it yet, but I'll put a little suit on and I'll be like have you been arrested for weed? Do you live in a poor area, according to some demographic?
Speaker 1:Well, right, and that's it. The super social equities are so rare and those are the ones. Those are the only ones that can touch the privilege in Illinois. Good to know. And Illinois is only about halfway through issuing their licenses, and then we'll see Biden continuing to do this. There might be a social equity program nationwide, but then there's a lot of people that hate social equity and that concept and they believe in open markets because they just want to start doing the business and they don't want anybody to tell them. No, they don't want people to tell them. This is a privilege and not a right I think.
Speaker 2:I think it just comes down to fair. You know, like, when the rule comes down to like giving everybody a chance, like it's not fair. I mean like the the fact that we've been building our little empire again, you know, slowly it doesn't happen overnight, that's the shitty part but like, uh, it could you know if there was a fair way of like doing business? Right, I know you said before like why don't we just do delta nine, delta eight? We could have done that shit, shield that weird ass, gotten some contract with somebody, but I would rather have something from an illinois gr. You know, make a relationship, sell it in the store, and then we know that it's good product, you know, and then we can talk more about it and then actually making money doing all this shit, I don't know. Cool, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I want to try to share a shout out to this guy. Well, it says Aaron Zeman just joined us as a member. Shout out to him in Hawaii. So hopefully we're going to do some help out in Hawaii here in the coming year. But thank you for tuning in to another episode of Cannabis Legalization News and if you're a member you'll get in the credits. We'll see you next week. Well, actually wait, miggy are you off.
Speaker 2:next week I will be at the Gorge Blink-182 concert, so I'm camping.
Speaker 1:We are off next week, on the week after that and then off the last week because it's summer and so we're going to take about half this month off, but we hope to see you in two weeks. Everybody Deuces.
