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Unpacking Rescheduled Cannabis: What It Means for Transport and Beyond

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How will the rescheduling of cannabis to Schedule 3 impact the trucking industry? Join us as we break down U.S. Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg's stance on why current drug testing policies for truckers will remain unchanged, despite the shift. We navigate the intricate world of cannabis testing, its potential for more precise methods under Schedule 3, and the pressing need for accurate regulations to protect workers while maintaining safety on the roads.

In our deep dive into cannabis regulation, we compare it to alcohol laws and analyze corporate responsibility amidst political shifts. Could Biden or Trump influence cannabis policy more effectively? We scrutinize historical examples of corporate malfeasance and the spectacle of political debates, highlighting the necessity for stringent regulation to prevent corporate abuse and ensure equitable policy development. 

Discover the complexities of medical marijuana licensing in Kentucky, from the financial hurdles to the lottery system. We discuss the unique cannabis strain Black Patronus and explore the broader market's regulatory challenges, such as inconsistent state regulations and labor conditions. Learn how federal oversight could unify the industry and what the future holds for cannabis legislation, both domestically and internationally. Don't miss our engaging discussion packed with the latest news and insights.

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Speaker 1:

Hey you, thank you so much for joining us on another episode of Cannabis Legalization News. We have big news about what it will mean when it's Schedule 3 and if you are a truck driver or have a CDL. That is something that happened this past week. That and a presidential debate. We have more news besides those two things. We have something out of Congress it wasn't great. We have something out of the administration, which was better, and we have some news. Kentucky and they open Monday, which is believe is tomorrow. We have some shit that I wasn't expecting, some stuff out of the NCAA, michigan, out of Brazil and Texas. So let's do a Whole nother week of what happened in cannabis legalization News for June 30th 2024. Alright, let's bring Miggy in. Uh oh, bring Miggy in. All right, let's bring miggy on, oh there we go.

Speaker 2:

Well, I'm sorry with the dial up.

Speaker 1:

We're on. Dial up today. This isn't uh. Usually we have fiber internet, but today, dial up, we're going old school I blame a small batch blame that small batch. I tell you what. So this was uh, this was an episode that happened on congress. You know, united states transportation secretary pete budaj said that moving cannabis to schedule three won't affect drug testing policies for commercial truckers. That's right. Yes, you still need to pee in the cup. Noting the dpt department of transportation specifically lists marijuana as substances to screen for this is a no-brainer, though.

Speaker 2:

I mean. Nothing's going to change this fear-mongering that they're trying to build up. Whatever uh topic you want to bring it to rescheduling, it is just going to help bring the ball forward to becoming this absolute understanding of the plant right, like this understanding that uh consumption driving, not fear mongering. No one's perfect right. We're not promoting this, but the fear mongering involved. You know the apocalypse. How many legal states do we have now?

Speaker 1:

I get it, but you're not going to be allowed to test positive for alcohol, and so that makes sense that you should also not be able to test positive for cannabis. But then you have to change the test for cannabis, because you can test positive for cannabis weeks, if not months, later, while you're not impaired at all, and so the test is wrong for cannabis.

Speaker 1:

And maybe Schedule 3 will allow for better research so that they can get something similar to a breathalyzer type test where, if you are impaired because you've just had way too many dabs or or brownies, you shouldn't be driving no, no, there's definitely.

Speaker 2:

Don't go to work weed or drive weed that I've smoked and gone like shit. I shouldn't have done that, but in the end I was just a slower more or paranoid, it doesn't? I'm not still not trying to justify uh, anything. I'm just trying to say we should have a better understanding of. We don't have that understanding of the plant because of this non-existent scheduling. So until we get to the point.

Speaker 1:

It's not a poison like these other drugs that your body is like trying to get out of its system. It's like, oh, I'm going to hang on to that and keep it later for when we need some cannabinoids to melt into the background. To that and keep it later for when we need some cannabinoids to melt into the background, and so like you will be able to test positive for something weeks later, even though it may not have been a factor whatsoever in the accident, but then your employer is going to use it to throw you under the bus 100%, and this is why rescheduling can help the rules change in the benefit of you, the worker.

Speaker 2:

But let's watch the interaction.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, let's do this. Let's go to the YouTube. Let's see, here I'll bring up mine.

Speaker 4:

Three. Under current law trucking and other safety. Critical transportation workers are required to be tested for certain drugs, including marijuana. Marijuana continues to be the drug most frequently seen by CMV drivers in their testing reported to FMCA Drug and Alcohol Clearinghouse. The rescheduling and deregulation of marijuana would inevitably cause a number of people driving impaired while high to grow. The American Trucking Association has transmitted two letters to your agency highlighting these concerns. I would ask unanimous consent to submit those into the record. Mr Secretary, I think it's safe to assume that you know the number of all impaired drivers on our roadways would increase that ruling Can you speak to what your department's doing to ensure the transportation and safety reliant positions can continue to be tested for marijuana use if this proposal goes forward, and how your department plans to address transportation safety in light of DOJ's rulemaking?

Speaker 3:

Thank you. Yes, any impaired driving, be it alcohol, marijuana or any other source of impairment, is of course a major safety concern. Our understanding of the rescheduling of marijuana from Schedule 1 to Schedule 3 is that it would not alter DOT's marijuana testing requirements with respect to the regulated community. For private individuals who are performing safety sensitive functions subject to drug testing, marijuana is identified by name, not by reference to one of those classes. So even if it moves in its classification, we do not believe that that would have a direct impact on that authority. Likewise, I should mention, for federal employees, including any DOT employees who have a security clearance or a safety-sensitive position, we do not understand that to be changed, any drug testing requirement relevant to that to be changed based on the reclassification decision, but we're continuing to evaluate any indirect impacts that it might have.

Speaker 2:

So in another no shit news this is one of the big arguments that we made, like law enforcement, were like, well, when it's legalized, who do we know to arrest? Or how do we know who the bad guy is? How the fuck do you know? Now, that's what's going to happen.

Speaker 1:

How can you tell if they're messed up when they're driving? Now I mean like field sobriety tests. And then they wanted to get that wasn't enough evidence, like the the the officer's testimony that you were drunk, that wasn't enough evidence. They wanted a bright line. It's like then he blew into the thing or we tested his blood and he was over a line, and then it's. They write that into the law because it's just easier to prove that as opposed to trying to prove from the testimony of the officer who arrested them that you were clearly drunk.

Speaker 2:

You know, alcohol on the roads has been a thing for hundreds of years and actually so sweet. Yeah Well, you know we live in this world of arbitrary numbers. Right, point 08 is still a made up number. There's no scientific base about it. The point I think for here watch this it's five nanograms in a bloodstream and then 0.3% for hemp. Right, we live in this make-believe world of people who are like, oh, that 0.3 is going to stop me.

Speaker 1:

That's what they use. But then again, what do they? Then? People just game the 0.3. They just game the rule. And so, like you've set them a rule, as opposed to the field sobriety test was in many respects better because there wasn't this line in the sand. That was fairly arbitrary. It was built on the arresting officers. No, I saw you. You smelled like this. This is what I remembered. I wrote this down in my report immediately after coming into contact with you. You know that's good witness testimony, unless, of course, you know the cop is lying. But you know that's impeachment of the witness, and that impeachment of the witness is kind of somewhat similar to like trying to attack. You know the rationality of the particular bright line where they have this 0.3% or 0.08% for the alcohol, or five nanograms for the cannabis, where they make this line. Why? Because we have a rule. Because we have a rule we have rules.

Speaker 2:

As someone who has been doing personal studies of cannabis consumption and driving versus alcohol consumption, I would rather the world be stone driving. You know, as a traveling technician, you know I'm not going to sit here and tell and encourage people to smoke. But as a personal scientist, you know I have yet to get pulled over because of my cannabis consumption result of right Like the, the, the impact of my feeling and when I'm driving or whatever. But there are definitely times where people should again accountability, self-accountability. We put the person for doing it and deciding that this is a good idea. This is how we learn.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but again, remember, dupont was regulating itself when it murdered all those people because of what was the thing that they were trying to make. It's not Teflon, but it's similar to Teflon. It's the stuff that they put on your nonstick pan coatings. What do they call that stuff? I think it is Teflon. Teflon was killing people. Dupont knew it. They didn't care.

Speaker 2:

They were regulating themselves. That's the importance of regulation too, though we constantly get into this topic of how people are like ooh, boo descheduling or boo corporate weed, but eventually there's going to be a point where you need to avoid the doors flying off a Boeing airplane. Right, there's a quality and a.

Speaker 1:

Self-regulate no.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, there's a way that we can attack the situation where people can face repercussions. You know the right people, not the consumer. The consumer shouldn't bear the burden of this, you know any of it. But you know, depending on that is whether Trump or Biden is coming up, because you mentioned the debate and that, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I felt like Grandpa was beating up on Grandpa and then they started talking about their golf game and I'm like, for the love of God, will you please stop doing this? But that was terrible, that was just terrible and low expectations now going into it. So who, who do you think would be better for cannabis Trump or Biden? I think that Biden's administration would be better for cannabis. I think Trump's administration in the 2025 plan would just just got it Like, I like, almost like if biden wins, great, if trump wins, I hope, the last thing that biden does before he's.

Speaker 1:

Well, first off, he could say that he doesn't, he didn't win, you know, and then have his own january 6th because, why not? But, um, new standard, but exactly. But then, like, as he's getting escorted from the door, uh, by januaryth, he needs to make sure that the schedule three goes through and becomes a final rule, because then the 2025 crew that's coming in in 2025 with president lies his pants off on the right. He would have to do the whole thing over again, and so we'd have at least two years of schedule three week.

Speaker 2:

You hope that, unless, unless under that project where they remove the Schedule F people, people who are bureaucracy, bureaucrats, people who join a profession, fda it's run by mostly people with degrees in bio or chemistry, right, you don't have a bunch of mechanical engineers running the fda and and so forth, right, but project 25 plans on getting rid of those people. So now only uh, bootlickers are going to be like oh okay, boss, I'll go fix that for you because you, this is how I get my raise or whatever it is you're chasing, right, uh, uh, you know, this is the unfortunate part of the checks and balances, right, like?

Speaker 1:

like kevin sabat, would be in charge of the DEA. That's who they're going to put in charge of the DEA. Do you know who they're going to make like attorney general?

Speaker 2:

Rudy.

Speaker 1:

Giuliani.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, that'd be horrible.

Speaker 1:

That would be so bad.

Speaker 2:

Well, you know the upside down is upside right, but you know, as bad as that debate was, though, bro, like I get, like everybody was disheartened, like all anybody like you're like, this is this is it. You know this is when biden shows up, but you know, the next day he had so much energy for the north carolina rallies and uh, had so much. He's dapping up people in the waffle house and I'm like where was this last night? But you know, after six, pm.

Speaker 1:

Is he taking a dive? Is he doing the rope-a-dope just like I? I'm going to look like a clown on or around July 1st. They'll get overconfident and then by September I will just clean his clock and then I'll win.

Speaker 2:

No, no, I just don't think any of them have that ability to plan no but when you watch the thing and do a whole retrospect later you know they showed who they were right. One's a man of character who's like been in politics his whole life, and then the other one is someone who is always in for himself and has proven that in their business acrimony.

Speaker 1:

Over and over again. I've never met anybody who sold Bibles just for himself. But then again, like maybe most preachers I should be more cynical of Speaking of preachers the GOP congressional panel has moved to block cannabis rescheduling while amending medical cannabis rider with penalties for sales near schools. These are the people in the Project 2025, everybody. I want you to remember that you know, when you're trying to vote for the person who has dementia, that seems more feeble than the person who has dementia, that seems more confident. So the GOP-controlled Congressional Committee unveiled a key spending bill that contains provisions to block marijuana rescheduling Great While also amending a longstanding rider to protect medical cannabis sales from interfering with. New language authorized to enhance penalties for sales near schools and parks Crazy.

Speaker 1:

Well, again, this is how the money gets made in the government, and this is the same type of budgetary appropriation legislation, which typically is not where legislation happens. Appropriation, uh, legislation, which typically is not where legislation happens. It typically does not happen in the appropriations, but it's not unique in this respect that it only happened here. It also happened when they were trying to create, uh, the definition of hemp again, and so now hemp has been redefined in the farm bill draft and also in the USDA's appropriation request. And so now this is out of the Commerce, justice, science and Related Agencies CGS appropriation request for the 2025 budget year, saying we aren't going to go to Schedule 3. And oh, by the way, if your dispensary is too close to a school, we are going to shut you down. Remember, guys, election in November? The feeble guy who seems like he's not all there. Their party is not trying to do this type of enforcement.

Speaker 2:

Well, and again, the guy that everybody calls sleepy, or whatever the case is. You know, I want to Senile Joe. Yeah, I want to base my business. Where I put my faith in something is in the person right, the leadership where you and I oh, it's that time, let's take a break.

Speaker 1:

I just want to say watch out for your leaders, everybody. Hitler was a leader. How'd that go? The management is important. Management is important, I'm not gonna lie, but it's the systems and and the mechanisms you have in place that are almost more important. Because, like, your management is great because you have one guy who's really good at something. That business is fragile because once that guy's out of the way, it's got a problem. Now, if that guy would have been, I don't know, 70 is good, uh, but was like 200 better at creating systems to like work himself out of a job, yeah, that is worth a lot, a lot more to the company than just having a hero, and so we don't have a hero policy at Collateral Base. No hero is allowed. We have systems and procedures and processes and protocols so that we win, and we do it without going nuts. Speaking of going nuts, it looks like Miggy is back, all right, great.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, when I move, you hit the nail on the head. When it comes to, one is protocol, the other one is the representation of a thing, right when you and I are about to open a store. You and I are about to create a business that we hope. People are going to go there every day with the full intent to do their best and, you know, at a job that's going to benefit you and I, but also them and the community.

Speaker 1:

It's going to benefit the community. We have a wonderful community and customer loyalty and community engagement plan that we're working on in the background. We haven't gotten it yet, but we're going to go cabbage plan on this, or what is it called Cabbage club? We're going to go full on cabbage club but we're going to call it legacy plan.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but this is semantical for the your state in person only right, this is something that we're working on.

Speaker 1:

That's going to be in illinois but also like, if we can make it more than one state, we can make it more than one state, but yeah, we can't you know.

Speaker 2:

Well, I just think what I'm trying to get to the point is uh, whereas a, we're trying to create a system, a thing, whereas we're not going to try to be that thing. Right, it's not going to be the tom and miggy pot shop, because I mean, how, how well would I do until, like, one of us dies, or oh, we are so much better off like if it's in peoria, illinois, just calling it peoria dispensary.

Speaker 1:

Stop right for se and like and then cause. You're not allowed to advertise your brand and everybody like it's still like our marketing bootcamp. Stay tuned for that. How do you make a cannabis brand? My advice is you don't you make a brand behind the brand, because you're not allowed to advertise the cannabis brand.

Speaker 2:

That is a quandary in itself that we have to deal with one state in particular. But when it comes to leadership, though, making change in this world, right, the new topic, by the way, this whole episode at least most of it brought to you by marijuana moment. You know that's a really good site where we get half our shit I mean, most people do. That's good information. But but marijuana not as dangerous as previously thought. Biden campaign says this promotes pardons and rescheduling and new ads, so they have devoted a whole new uh page on their campaign trail where they're just talking about cannabis. This is something that you don't see from the other side, right where they're so busy trying to like kill regulation. You have to work with the regulation, you have to shape it. This is how it goes. You have to be part of the process, not kill the process and hope everybody else does their deed. This is going to be insane, but I think in this leadership, the Biden campaign is definitely the best one for legalization, for the economy in general.

Speaker 1:

Well, I don't know of any other presidential campaign ever that had an official opinion page on liberalizing cannabis policies.

Speaker 2:

Yeah 100%.

Speaker 1:

Where's Donald Trump's website, truth Social? Okay, where is this conversation in Truth Social? Is this on his policy agenda? Is this Project 2025's agenda? Because it seems like it's more that last story that we covered about the GOP introducing a bill to crack down on sales near schools, even at state licensed dispensaries, and also to remove the rule that's going to Schedule 3.

Speaker 2:

So keep it in Schedule 1, ban hemp, we're good, no let's not forget that we already had four years of this past administration of just not knowing what the heck they're doing as far as like creating a pathway speed, like I think that's what we've seen.

Speaker 1:

We've seen regulatory speed and so, like he announced it before the midterms- oh, yeah, and so and again, like remember it was a fucking pandemic when he got elected.

Speaker 1:

It just straight out, lockdowns, all that you got. You don't want to remember it because it all seemed like it was two weeks, because that's what it seems like to be in prison, right, and so still, they paid attention to that for at least the first 18 months of the Biden administration. But then, so by October of 22, he's like reschedule it, and that is regulatory speed. So if the last thing he can do, he's like reschedule it, and that is regulatory speed. So if the last thing he can do if he loses is to reschedule before he's out, and here's the final rule, you have to do it all over again. And so you know regulatory speed goes at. And you know Trump ain't going to look at it Like do you think the Republicans and Trump they've just done something very, very popular and he wants to go do weird, stupid shit? Do you think one of them is going to be like undo what Biden just did to reschedule it?

Speaker 2:

You know, I think it would be whoever shows up the biggest bag that day. Right, you're going to have both hemp people and weed people and they're like, hey, I got a trillion jillion over here, we're going to buy all your shares of True Social.

Speaker 1:

But then the hemp people and the weed people need to work out like a stock participation program where they both put in some and then they merge the two. And so that's what I was kind of like getting at with my public comment to the DEA, where I'm like, look, you got to pick up hemp here at the bottom here, because you're creating this whole thing and you might as well regulate the whole plant. Tie, you know, soup to nuts because it starts, and some of the hemp plant you grow for its cannabinoids yeah, some of the hemp plant you grow because you want to make a couch or a chair or, or you know, a car or clothing, anything that the industrial purposes of hemp can do.

Speaker 2:

There's a difference I think, though, most people, in both hamping and cannabis, whoever's making money right, like you and I, are not making money. Well, you are I'm not yet as far as being someone in the industry and I think they're both in the bed when they don't sit down together and go look, we got to create one uniform policy for federal regulation, because that needs what happens for a rollout. It's going to happen, no matter what, there's going to be a rollout, but this painful, like you said, uh, regulation time frame, this uh regulation speed.

Speaker 1:

It's like there you go. Remember space balls? I hear they're making a space balls too, by the way, with mel bro. Mel Brooks Shout out to Mel Brooks just turned 98. But Spaceballs 2, the Search for More Money I hear it's coming out. Instead of ludicrous speed, it's regulatory speed, Seriously though. Okay, I have a two-month public comment period on this, and then I will take and address all notes, at which time we will then be publishing the proposed final rule and we will take more comments. I mean, like it's.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, they can also just sit on it, right? They could have just sat on this without you know how many lawsuits were pressed about, like what's your inner workings? Right, we want to see the notes, the memos, whatever the fuck it is. How long did it take to get those? Like this, the notes, the memos, whatever the fuck it is. How long did it take to get those? This is just a regulatory process and it's horrible and painful. How long did it take for us to get our license?

Speaker 1:

Physical 10 months. Actually, if we do the whole thing, from the time that you and I applied to the time that we are at now, it's been almost a year and a half.

Speaker 2:

Shit, not business. A year and a half policy none of the. Anything that you want good is not the sexy part of life, right? Like how much like meetings and shit happens during the work day, uh, you know, as far as when it comes to like uh, asking for public's input, you know, people gotta work. How many things do people really care about to take the day off and be like, oh, I'm going to go to the Capitol and make sure my voice is heard.

Speaker 1:

But you know, what's been grinding my gears are the people that are telling their people. They're social media followers. They're like rescheduling is not enough. Tell the president to deschedule. And I'm like, okay, you can also tell him the sun is blue and the sky is yellow. It's outside of his power to deschedule and everybody needs to understand how the Controlled Substances Act worked. You can subscribe here and go watch some of the scripted videos that I've done about it. He has to reschedule it. He can't deschedule it. So I should do a video, and I think I will One of the loom ones. Only Congress can fix this mess. Only Congress can fix this.

Speaker 2:

You should do a video, though, on the new ruling that came out, the whole Chevron Supreme thing, oh yikes, yeah, and so that gets like weird Chevron Supreme thing.

Speaker 1:

But then I think that bolsters my argument that THCA is illegal because it violates the absurdity of the absurd rule principle and you now can't really give deference to anything that the rules, the dea, has actually said. It's just really what the law says and then what a judge says. The law means uh, which is scary to say the least, but whatever and whatever. So anyway, then you have an ambiguity regarding the definition of hemp directly in the statute, where it's like here's the definition of hemp, don't forget to test it for decarboxylation or other similarly reliable methods, which. That is the ambiguity which creates the analysis for the absurd principle rule.

Speaker 2:

I thought the Chevron thing, though it has to do with taking the juice out of a government entity right, whether it be the DEA or FDA. Whatever their proposed rule on this thing is. They're trying to say the Supreme Court has the power to decide whether it's right or wrong.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, federal courts. They're not the supreme courts and so, like I don't, I don't I one of the reasons why the chevron opinion was like, really interesting. It allowed for a larger administrative bureaucracy, as you don't have the courts interpreting as much, and the courts are giving deference to the administrative authorities that have been charged pursuant to the legislature, with the ability to enforce the laws that the legislature themselves passed. However, like Neil Gorsuch is probably the most famous of the justices for his certain bent or penchant for trying to get rid of the regulatory state, he's even got like a backstory and an origin story about why he hates the fourth branch, the administrative, headless branch of government, and why they're just essentially trying to take it down and dismantle it. And so the Chevron case being overturned. It really achieved that mission of core conservative principles where you do not want the regulators in my business.

Speaker 2:

So couldn't you say, though, to like this, the importance of voting right? Like there is a group of nerds a long time ago that were so mad about abortion and women's rights that they were like, hey, the judicial system if we can get the judges in there, and this is a harsh truth to our system, because now, unless we get a new, say, more judges, because isn't he allowed to like the question is two more judges or not, right?

Speaker 1:

No, no, the judges are appointed for life.

Speaker 4:

Nicky.

Speaker 2:

For life. But to add more to the odds, right, because he can add two more. Isn't there been people in the conversation asking for him to add more Supreme Court judges overall?

Speaker 1:

No, he's not allowed to unless there's a seat. And there's no seats open. Oh yeah, I thought there was. You don't want to. No, he's not allowed to unless there's a seat and there's no seats open, oh yeah, yes, we do.

Speaker 1:

Minnesota Cannabis Social Equity Program draws 700 screening. It's not quite applicants. So the Green Market Report is reporting that 700 people have requested an application or requested the ability to be considered compliant with social equity rubrics. And then CSI not the popular CBS crime drama, but a software company that is familiar with certifying social equity applicants oh my God, did I miss the bus on that one? That, oh, that's okay. Okay, I think this will be fun. This will be fun. One of the things we're going to do with, uh, fy 2025 revenue share uh, I'll be like we need to build this software. Why? Because CSI is just getting all these contracts and we should get those contracts, uh, and so that's that's what we're going to have to do. We'll make our own portal and then I'm going to use the business patent that I got for the collateral base as our secret sauce method to get that rent seeking behavior. And then we are screening the social equity applicants. It's the only time.

Speaker 1:

Tom's always on the grind, but it's not about the money. It's about the deal.

Speaker 2:

So still 100 applicants in 24 hours. I mean, I know I'm one of them and actually there's more. Like you said, they're not anything issued. I still have to. I got an email saying I have to follow up on some documentation, so the process has begun. This is how it works, folks.

Speaker 1:

Social equity is in effect in Minnesota, it's also in effect in Delaware, but they've coded you out of Delaware, dude, you are not social equity Delaware. You are not social equity Delaware, you're just social equity nationwide.

Speaker 2:

The address in Delaware is that what it was.

Speaker 1:

Delaware has a dormant commerce clause challenge waiting to happen in it, and remember all those dormant commerce clause challenges cases, every one of them that said that it doesn't apply and so you're allowed to discriminate against in-state residences or or or actors. Economic actors have all said that it's because the controlled substances act, it's illegal and so if it's rescheduled, that line of cases should go nowhere.

Speaker 2:

Hey, I want to do a little name that strain.

Speaker 1:

Let's do name that strain, and we've got some big news out of Kentucky. But first let's let's watch some pictures of pretty flowers.

Speaker 3:

That's an exotic.

Speaker 2:

Dark, very dark Black, I would say so black?

Speaker 1:

yeah, let's see here. Um strainly is reporting this and I have to try to see who its parents are. See, I'm gonna miss this if. If they change the definition of hemp to not include seeds, the name that strain will suffer greatly, because a lot of these name that strains come from seed websites where we read about them and then we're like, oh, it sounds delicious, but 80 bucks a seed, I'm not paying for that. Let's see here. This one is got a very esoteric name Like I've never heard of this. You ever heard of this one?

Speaker 2:

No, I have not. It's a feminized hybrid.

Speaker 3:

It takes six days to flower.

Speaker 2:

I am looking.

Speaker 1:

I do not see. I haven't even heard of its parents. It's like RS-11 crossed with Falcon 9.

Speaker 2:

That'd be like phenom shit right Like someone's personal, probably like RS11.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes, but then typically, like as you're getting some type of phenom to go into production to make a mom from it, and so like you would have those, and then you would name them, and then they'd be numbered, and then you clone and then you send some into flower, you keep the other one in the momming area, the momming area, the momming area I'm just totally nailing the terminology here and then what you do is you then test the various phenols to see which one you want to put in production, and then eventually you put one in production but the actual name of this strain doesn't have any reference to its numbers from the phenome. But then it's.

Speaker 1:

RS-11. I don't even know what RS-11 is.

Speaker 2:

And Falcon 9.

Speaker 1:

And I've never heard of Falcon 9. And so I'm like is this Canadian? Is this from California?

Speaker 2:

Well, exoticagenics. They're from Cali, I believe.

Speaker 1:

Exotic genetics is the breeder. Yeah, search Google for Exotic Genetics.

Speaker 2:

Follow me on Instagram.

Speaker 1:

You follow him on Instagram, do you? I believe so. Hey, exotic Genetics, get at us, let's see if you want to sponsor. Name that strain. I'm just trying to see where they're actually from Contact us. They do not exist, except for the internet. Kudos to you. You do not disclose an address. It does look like a black Afghan, doesn't it?

Speaker 2:

That's where I ran into them, that's where I remember because I got some of their seeds. I believe Cool Chad seeds, hey Chad.

Speaker 1:

Tacoma Washington is where they started. So good old Tacoma Washington. Okay, and that may be explained. Like you know a lot of the MSOs, they don't fuck with.

Speaker 2:

Washington State and I think that's one of the reasons why a lot of their genetics, like I don't think, get out as much as they get out, like in california and shit I think overall, though, you know, eventually one day, when this becomes federally, um, uniform, uh, you know, we're gonna go into different ways to talk about not just genetics, but maybe, uh, like, everybody talks about the, the, like the filios project and how they describe the plant, down to terpenes. You know you're gonna want to. You know, whatever your preference is like right now, for me it's just gassy and garlicky, but uh, uh, you know what is that? Or?

Speaker 1:

um, yeah, yeah, there's, there's quite a few and some file involved. But, um, yeah, I, I still like the willie nelson, like a little bit little fruity, a little wo. Anyway, the name of this one is not weed, it's Black Patronus. Black Patronus was the answer to that one. Yeah, it's. Uh started from a little hydroponic store in tacoma, washington. Exotic genetics is now bringing you seeds like black patronus. That is in rs11 across the falcon nine and uh, does it tell, like the, does it tell the flavor profiles? If blacked out icy nugs are not your thing, I would stay far away from this one. Blacked out icy nugs, everybody. Not your thing, I would stay far away from this one.

Speaker 1:

Blacked out. Icy nugs everybody Icy Good news out of Kentucky is what we got.

Speaker 2:

I deleted it. Oh, here we go, we got the tab. That's what we need, baby. That's one of them. Yep, kentucky medical marijuana business license begins July 1st.

Speaker 1:

Correct Kentucky medical marijuana business license begins July 1st. Correct, they will start taking applications tomorrow. Kentucky has been way out ahead of Minnesota, which is also going kind of right now with like pre-qualifications. We had that story, you know, with the 700 applied. Ducky is not social equity. Kentucky is a medical round for the first time, what we call a complete lottery. Kentucky is a complete lottery because you need a whole application that has everything that is required of it and then you need to win a lottery. They are not giving away very many licenses, so they will be very coveted and it will take some time for it to launch.

Speaker 2:

As it is a fresh market that doesn't have any medical operations, this is a hard one to talk about too, because, like I think a Kentucky commercial would be like, even for the lowest level license, it's going to be like do you have 50K in the bank? If so, you got a chance, because that's a bare minimum. You got to have Technically more.

Speaker 1:

Technically, it is actually quite a bit more than that, because you're going to need and let's do this one this is like the tiers that they have for their cultivation lives here's the confirmation of sufficient capital. And so let's say you want to apply for the cheapest one, that's the tier one cultivator and so they're going to give out only 10 of these tier one cultivators and the square footage of canopy I don't think they have that up there, but I recall it it is only 2,500 square feet, so only about 625 plants. And so you're going to have to pay a $3,000 application fee as well. And let's say you win one of those 10,. You will then within, and they say it like right here. And so right there you see where it says October TBD, right there I'm going to try to like highlight it, but I can't because it's an image so license payment due within 15 days of invoicing for license fee. So you have to show the 50,000, then you have to show the $50,000, then you have to pay the $3,000 non-funded by application fee, and then, if you win, they're going to invoice you for the $12,000 that you have to pay within two weeks.

Speaker 1:

Now let's consider that in relation to all the other license types. For example, you have the dispensary that's 30 large, and so it's five large per app. Andary, that's 30 large, and so it's five large per app, and then it's 30 large if you win plus. Also, you need to show 150 000 of cash money to be eligible to even get into the lottery. But like this is like kentucky has done a great job, relative especially to minnesota, which you know like we will give them more shade later is that that's Minnesota starting to smell like a like a New York dumpster fire, but we'll see. Like I really hope that's not the case. But Kentucky is like here's, here's the rules, here's how it goes through, here's how it all works, and so one of the things you need is a signed lease deed or contingency agreement. You also need real estate, and so we just talked about all that cash money you need. Now you need non-cash liquidity issues where you're going to get locked in some real estate.

Speaker 2:

There you go, as much as it's like yay, it's like no, because I mean, this is the frustrating part about legalization how it comes state by state right, like as each state rolls out their own version of whatever they want to do. And people with money or business goals, Because you could, you know, as you and I are in the beginning of this, you know we, you know I'm looking at ways to build capital. Right, I think about people my age. There's a lot of people my age who already have a million dollars, right, like I would joke that it's probably about like five.

Speaker 1:

Well, you live in Seattle so you might have like a slightly warped one, but it's like five to nine percent of the population of 50-year-olds in America have over a million dollars. What?

Speaker 2:

do you mean Like in savings too, though? Right, like I recently just started saving within, like the past eight years, where you know I have built up 100K right, and that's not enough to you know, jump in. But it's also nothing to like sneeze at. It's just something that other people my age like they can do the whole friends and gathering thing you know put in your money. You know we're trying to figure it out. I'm trying to figure it out as far as, like, how am I going to try and approach this building of the funds Right? What plan can I lay out to incise people? Right, I'm thinking right now, crown funding is the biggest option that I have, right?

Speaker 1:

The biggest option you have. Like that we can. We can totally do. Uh is in the statute and we apply for a $240,000 loan as soon as we can. We cannot yet do that but I anticipate within the next 12 to 24 months that will also be an opportunity.

Speaker 2:

We're gonna go get that money no, I get it, but like we are still the quandary, like the other day, when we're talking about the we're about to get into business, right, but the investment you and I are about to do, right, it shouldn't put you out of pocket, like it shouldn't put you hurt. It shouldn't put me hurt. This is a new know, because we're going to go into retail. This is the hard part.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but you got to remember, man, like, when you are a business owner, you are a bag holder, so you just have to make sure you're holding the right bag. And it's one of those deals where entrepreneur means the one in French that bears the risk, and like bearing the risk just didn't sound cool enough and so they called it entrepreneur. They should have said like no, he's the balls what, he's the one who can get kicked in it if something goes wrong. And so, like employees, you get your fee and you can leave. And then you got like benefits and crap, like that, if you're the one holding the bag, it's your rights, it's your ass on the line. How much insurance do you have? All that shit.

Speaker 2:

How do you pay this?

Speaker 3:

back.

Speaker 2:

Just to roll out these markets. You and I are in a spot where the business side of things is going to be straight, just plain business, whereas these other lottery stuffs where it's like 10K for a non-refundable possible chance as long as you have 100K stored somewhere and plus yeah have.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah and so like, let's do the quick. The real quick kentucky math right here is just, there's three layers of the licensing. For the gross, and there ain't that many of them, there's only 10 of the 2500 square foot canopy space. Not that big of a canopy space, just 2500, 2,500 square feet, 10 of those. So if you add them all together you get 25,000 square feet. That's the size of the largest canopy, and they're only going to give two of those away.

Speaker 1:

So, yeah, that's a tier three license, 25,000 square feet of canopy space. Just two of those are going away. So now we're at 75,000 square feet of canopy space, and the whole fucking state for all the medical patients to 75,000 square feet of canopy space. And then I think they're giving out four tier twos, which are 10,000, because I think it's 10, four, two, um, and if that's correct, let me just find that in here, yes, and so that would be, uh, 40,000 extra. So you have 75, 115,000 square feet of canopy space. That is half a license in Illinois. That is half a cultivator license in Illinois.

Speaker 2:

But none of this is fair, right, like as you crunch numbers and do things, it's different for each fucking state, which is the hard part for all of this.

Speaker 1:

But like there's, that's the canopy size, and so, like we can add up, like we can go let's say it's michigan like there's this many class c's, there's this many that you can add up the canopy space of a state. And so the canopy space of a state for kentucky is going to be zip zero and 115 000 square feet. But then, like, how many patients are they going to get? And so one of the things when I talk to people that want to apply and they think it's going to be all this money, I'm like no, it's not. You're going to have to hold this shit for a while. This is, this is a long play, and you're going to come out sideways melting money down and it's like how much can you lose before this thing starts to break even?

Speaker 2:

100. That and then that's going to be why NSOs are the players in those states and these regions because they can bleed money. You know we've met people in Texas who can bleed, but you know who's not bleeding are going to be NCAA players.

Speaker 1:

NCAA players. They got some good news. It's good to be in college right now. It is Wait, no, it's not, it's the summer. It's good to be in college right now? It is no, it's not, it's the summer. It means that you're probably doing summer school. It's good to be on summer break from college right now.

Speaker 2:

Some people do year-round man. Ncaa Council votes to remove cannabis from banned drug lists. Removes limits on field coaches Just some coaches, god damn it.

Speaker 1:

Removes limits on on-field coaches, Coaches that are damn. It Removes limits on on-field coaches and so, like coaches that are on the field can now, I guess, test positive for weed. I mean, it's nice. Just not the head coach and 10 assistants.

Speaker 2:

But the players. You know I'm always about the fundamental end-user person. You know, it's great that the janitorial staff can smoke all the weed they want, which they should be allowed to, because when you have a shitty job, you should be allowed to smoke as much good weed as you can, but I mean that's cool, I mean NCAA, I don't get it, man.

Speaker 1:

Non-coach. That's a lot of work. Here's a quote from the Illinois Athletic Director, josh Whitman Cannabis products quote do not provide a competitive advantage end quote. So yeah, it's not like I was doping, I was just using dope man.

Speaker 2:

We got this Chinese story.

Speaker 1:

This Chinese story is sad, I tell you.

Speaker 2:

Well, I got a good take on this one, so the headline is Inside Chinese Fund Staffed Marijuana Farms Spring Up Across US how this article came about. There was a part in here where they talk about auditors that came to investigate a farm. Did you get to that part?

Speaker 1:

Oh no, Just do it, man. What's going on?

Speaker 2:

These auditors came out and after twice in a row, they identified inxico, uh the uh that there was obviously a slavery type involved with these uh, chinese immigrants and bad chemicals, extra bandwidth. As far as the grill wit, they were doing all these things wrong. And that's the thing about regulation right, legalization is it's going to enable people to be auditors to find shit like this right. As much as we all know, it's not just china, it's the cartels people are trying to to divert money into all these legal markets now, because this is business, this is real money, good money, that's. If you have a good business plan, that can you know. But they're also trying to skirt the system when you do extra slave labor growing above your canopy spaces.

Speaker 1:

This is why Schedule 3 is so important If we have federal regulation, federal oversight and one set of rules for the whole gosh darn plant and we're going to start talking about something besides what happened in New Mexico happen in New Mexico, In Michigan, they are going to potentially I'm sorry, they're going to ban some harmful substances which have been found in vapes. Mct oil has been in vapes and they do not know if that is healthy, according to the executive director of their regulators, which is the CRA of their regulators, which is the CRA. Yeah, it's huge. Well, you don't know the rules, and so each state has different rules. And then you have hemp products that have no rules, and then you have regulators approaching it on a state-by-state basis for what is safe, and this is an interstate market.

Speaker 1:

People go to Michigan to get weed from other states because it's the biggest weed market in the Midwest. Well, I mean the federal regulation, the Schedule 3, that says if you want to make this product, you need this license for these things. That's what Schedule 3 really has the ability to do and take, like the $28 billion hemp industry and the $30 billion cannabis industry and interweave them, Smash them together you know, with this Michigan, though, with the regulators actually going, look, this is how you're going to.

Speaker 2:

You know, take this out of the picture. Here in washington state, I, you know, we, I had the fortunate uh pleasure of seeing like the beginnings of like carts and all the other stuff where, uh, people were trying different uh things to uh what do you call it when you, uh you break a component up, uh the carrier, you know, like, like, when you for a straight pin so the liquid in the pan involved, and that's why they put terpenes in it to like make it looser, but I I've never made a vape well so.

Speaker 2:

So, as somebody who's who's always been interested in the, the product, right, like the rosin press, you know, you squeeze it and then you can dilute. Like the way to extract cannabis, right, you can soak in alcohol. Uh, you know the different forms of hash. There's just ways to like, treat this plant, to get the, the concentrate. But you need something to to like in a vape pen, a liquid to be able to smoke at the same time, to be like the carrier. So in washington state, uh, as an asthmatic, I was always scared of the vapes because I didn't know, like, what was bad or whatever. Then I remember vaGate, where they figured out vitamin E acetate, gave you popcorn long and no one knew what was going on.

Speaker 2:

In Washington State, here the actual producers were using good products, they learned and weren't trying to harm their consumer. Who fucking wants to do that? Between using coconut oil or what else is there, you can use butter for food, right, these are all carriers of the cannabis, right, how you infuse things and the pens are different. The pen is just a way to smoke it. So I'm glad that there's actual rules. But this is the importance of regulation Descheduling. It would enable this to be a federal label from the gas station or like rescheduling it.

Speaker 1:

Rescheduling it being like look, if you're doing these things, you need these licenses, these are prohibited from being placed into them. And here's how you pay your taxes. Like this isn't hard, this is regulating something that you guys have been regulating. If you replace weed with liquor, you got the same type of stuff because you have different.

Speaker 1:

Like liquor is taxed on like gallon proof per gallon or something like that, and so depend like so the if you're going to buy booze like you know, spirits, for example higher tax than if you're going to buy wine, or if you're going to buy beer, we can have the exact same type of tax built in. And then trying to get like but this is tough. Like you know, they're going to raise our gas tax here in this county tomorrow because it's the 1st of July. That's just kind of how like taxes work typically, and so like how much tax is locally laid versus how much tax is, you know, from a state by state basis, and so like will people continue to go to michigan or missouri to buy their weed because it's just so much cheaper across the border?

Speaker 2:

well, these are just different types of regulation. Right, you have the tax, which is the money for like to play the game. Then you got the actual rules of the product that were, you know like, it's kind of like how I think you and I are going to be a good package when it comes to the business. Right, you like through the rules. I worked with the rules as a technician, I run a lab, I know the procedures and all that, but these are important for this to come into play. We don't get shit if nothing happens with today's Schedule 1. Today's Schedule 1, no ball moves forward. What do you call it? Legislation race time.

Speaker 1:

Regulatory speed. There you go. It's like slow but slower. No, how fast does regulatory speed go? Have you ever just been really bored and wondered if anything? Oh my gosh, if you really want to see regulatory speed, there is this movie with all these stars about Du DuPont. You know it's called like Blackwater or something and how Teflon was poisoning people. That poor lawyer in it had to wait like seven years. Boy, that would have broken most people Like, but then he's just representing the people that were actually fucked.

Speaker 2:

Well they messed up his career, you know aaron brockovich, like how long did that take for that case to go through right? All these different entities do serve a purpose to help the people, but it also becomes hard for the people to like. You need someone, unfortunately like a lawyer, to understand the rules, to go through the process, and it takes the time and it will fight the fight, because none of this is free. Time is not free, right? Someone's time to understand something. We've got a big shout to Texas Some shit. We weren't expecting.

Speaker 1:

Let's do the next two stories. One of them is international, but yeah, we have two stories that are kind of like shit that we weren't expecting. One out of Texas. Texas activists put in 50,000 signatures to put a local marijuana crim initiative in the Dallas ballot on November and now I bet they're all going to say like hey, state law trumps local law, you're not allowed to do that.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, there's lawsuits.

Speaker 1:

But then what would happen if the feds rescheduled schedule three and be like texas you gotta move it, you gotta legalize everything, texas put it, you know, in texas though this is, it would show if they were to fight these people on that kind of grounds.

Speaker 2:

Because, again, texas is a strange animal, because how often do they meet, like every two years once. Every other year?

Speaker 1:

yeah, it's great yeah, they, yeah, they get paid like $7,500 a year. So you really, and you work every other year, so nothing gets done and you're mostly doing it for the position and the title.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's crazy. You can stop people's choice, right, you can stop people's will, and so I really do hope to Dallas, yay. But this is going to have to do it like Ohio did, state by county by county, city by city, you know. Decriminalize yeah, I wasn't expecting either. Hopefully they don't get lawsuits and stops there, you know.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you know they will, you know they will, but this would be Dallas. Oh, you know they will, you know they will, but this would be Dallas. And so like, how can you a city out of compliance with the state laws, even in home rule? I could see this being headed for some interesting Brazil. So a little bit of international news. Their Supreme Court has decriminalized possession of marijuana for personal use. That was the case out of Brazil. Over here in America we have Chevron's decision and regulatory oversight being just gutted from the Constitution Inzil.

Speaker 2:

They legalized it, proving once again the brazil supreme court way cooler than our supreme court I mean, you know it's hard to say like we're better than other people when they're doing shit like this right, like 11 person. There's 11 people on the brazil supreme court, so come on two more, two more judges so I'm trying to see if you're allowed any home grow or what possession limits, Because I imagine this is going to be a symmetrical thing for a while, right? Oh sure.

Speaker 1:

Sure, but it's out of the Associated Press, so you know it's true.

Speaker 1:

In 2006, brazil's Congress approved a law that sought to punish individuals caught carrying small amount of drugs with alternative penalties, and community service Experts say the law was too vague and didn't establish a specific quantity to help law enforcement and judges differentiate between personal and drug trafficking. So there might not be possession limits, and that might have been one of the problems. So they have to say, like, well, what's personal and what's drug trafficking? And if we're going to venture your guess, and that's all this is, I'd say two pounds I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I don't know because it's a hard argument depending on what you can turn to, like a press for rosa for future right. Like, or make it the butter, like that it's very semantical what what the personal possession is. But but it's funny to see.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but if you're running a still, if you're running a still in Kentucky or a vineyard in California and you're doing certain stuff and you're going over a line, people are going to start knocking on your door and be like you got a license for that, you got a permit for this.

Speaker 2:

A vineyard's different, but the distillery could be for hand sanitizer. I'm just saying, saying I'm not a lawyer.

Speaker 1:

I'm just here to say that I'm just making hand sanitizer right here in my regulatory free kentucky environment.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, that was a shit. Yeah, meanwhile, the springboard does go for it.

Speaker 1:

right in April, the Senate approved a constitutional amendment criminalizing possession of any quantities. Their legislature is still criminalizing weed.

Speaker 2:

It's not really going anywhere, but the fact that their courts actually gave something for people's rights versus ours does stuff to take away people's rights is really, really, really contradictory Right?

Speaker 1:

Well, really, really contradictory Right. Well, let's hope that they do allow people to have weed for personal use in Brazil, Because after a night of samba, your butt might hurt. And you're like I should have been dancing so much yesterday and having all that curaçao or whatever the heck they drink down there. And then you're like, ah, I should have been dancing so much yesterday and having all that Curacao or whatever the heck they drink down there. And then you're going to need some cannabis for pain relief.

Speaker 2:

I mean it helps professional athletes. It's a good shit.

Speaker 1:

Sure, it is not performance enhancing, no, no.

Speaker 2:

That's been testified to by the NCAA. Hey, did you see? We covered everything, but I had to just talk about the business in San Diego, california, southern California. San Diego just opened up social equity cannabis licenses and I think it's the most dumb after-the-fact type thing, especially, you know, look for it.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's open market state does limited market try, and that's what it is. California is an open market, limited market, and so they're gonna allow, and then it's it. So, instead of the state being the regulator, the city's the regulator and.

Speaker 2:

But the san diego area has always been kind of funny with weed, like they've been kind of oppressive about it. Like, being a Southern California person, I always thought like, ah, california is the best place to smoke a pot, but it's not because they really are. Harsh your gig, you know, over cannabis, which is the silliest thing, cause you know I'm I'm just trying to enjoy the sunset and smoke a doobie, not not be all riled up and you know and whatever. But it's sad to see them finally getting around so late. When I was down there last time, dude, I had to drive so far just to get a bag. It was silly to see them all sanctioned in the corner here in Washington State I got several within bus distance.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to have to go across the street to the city council Next week. We're getting closer to figuring out where we want to put it, but then like that's the thing.

Speaker 1:

Like I uh, I want to like kind of show people like how to start a dispensary and, like you know, get it started, operate it in like a highly limited state, like in illinois or something, because that's where it's like expensive. But I don't think we're going to be able to do that on the channel and so I think we're going to have to run that through the legacy plan.

Speaker 2:

You mean as far as um uh, illinois not liking us talking about like anything, anything like it's like those go against their terms of service, so like we could just say like look, if you're an entrepreneur in this and you want to see us do this and, like you know, have us mentor, you go here and buy this uh subscription.

Speaker 1:

I mean we could just do a patreon too at that point, if we know, no, I'll show you, I I'll do a demo for you of the legacy plan once I got it done. And so, um, yeah, we, we have to do the wire frames. And evidently figma is like updating itself with ai. So like, right, and the guy has a birthday on Friday, so I'm not going to bust his balls. I'm like, okay, I want this. Then I tell the dev team, then we talk about it at the next week's dev meeting. Then I'm like, okay, I'll get a developer on that or a designer. I'm like, okay, great, I'd just like to see some Figma wireframes, nothing big.

Speaker 2:

I got to get back to suing motherfuckers and yeah, I mean, that's the inside of your machine, right? Because this is going to be a whole different machine, right? This is going to be more of that, it's all the same machine.

Speaker 1:

It's business, it's all the same machine. And then that's the rules of business. It's business, it's all the same machine. Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2:

It's business. It's all the same machine as long as you're the one running it right. That's what's going to be Once we get this more. Right now I just have a pretend license that I know has value. When I ever posted something or reached out to people they were like congrats on your big fat bank account. No, I still have to go to work, even when the store profitability thing happens, because you're talking like a couple million in a year of profits, which I understand is feasible in a limited market license where we're at, which is going to be.

Speaker 2:

That's. That's kind of the only way we can actually create a business plan, the way you know correct, of such. Because if it was a competitive market, right now, the competitive market is the hemp industry, right. The THCA, the gas station, weed people, right. Cause people are buying that, cause that's what they. They feel it's safe for them to buy, you know.

Speaker 2:

But we're going to be offering the other, cheaper too, but also safe, right? They think, oh, I'll buy it from the gas station, we need it. It can't be sprayed with weird terps, whereas, like with the VapeGate I don't know how much of that was sold in just black market. I wonder if any of it was sold because they were using vitamin E acetate, which you know everybody wants to cut corners, you know, and that's why you need a regulatory process, it's why you need the Michigan board telling you to take this product out of your vapes, you know, because it's bad for human consumption. So it's important and I hope we can express more of it to other people as we get more involved in the industry or transparency for the end user.

Speaker 1:

Well, yeah, it'll take some time. Remember, the rule is you cannot advertise a cannabis brand on social media, which is why we won't have one. Yeah, we're still working on it. You know, like, okay, we can do a clinic on that. But like, well, basically we'll create a new product that we'll sell and then we'll pre-selling this thing until we get it operational. Uh, it'll make a lot more sense in post.

Speaker 2:

I'll explain it to you off camera eventually there'll be a time where I'm wearing a fucking t-shirt with a name on it. This every fucking day you see me because I am going to promote the shit out of whatever thing is the store. You know what I'm saying. Like that's going to be the focus.

Speaker 1:

Yes, but like again, just like you were maybe four, 20 and I was home row like a decade plus ago, that's still the same. Like you can't advertise a cannabis brand on social and buy ads to it, but you can advertise a subscription based loyalty program.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I mean either way. It's semantical, because it's like I just want Q to hang out with us more Now we have 200 people.

Speaker 1:

Sure. Thank you, thanks. And then we'll have all sorts of new cannabis legalization news next week and then some more information about running a business, and so that's what we'll have to do is more entrepreneurial content, leading them into like, and we could tell them we can't tell you this stuff here, you're going to have to go learn it over there. Yeah, we'll be at Apple Mill, join us. No, not doing that, not doing that. Look, I will do that. Yes, we will do that, but, like it will only be me doing it as ironically and hilariously as possible.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, fight milk. Okay, thank you so much for joining us on another episode of Cannabis Legalization News. That's our show for the week. I'll be at Vegas on Tuesday. No, I won't. I will be in Peoria, illinois, on Tuesday, and I hope that you have a wonderful July 4th celebration with your family and see a lot of cool things blow up that are not your hands.

Speaker 2:

Damn right Marriage.

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